Old 04-14-2008, 10:33 PM   #1
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Are scopes worth it?

i am considering buying a PE scope for my m38 but i dont know if it would be worth it...

could i transfer the scope to new mosin if it has a round receiver?

and after everything is said and done it would cost like 200ish with a scope.

60ish for PE
60ish for bolt
60ish for scope.

is it sad that it would cost more to get a scope on the gun than it cost to buy it?
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Old 04-14-2008, 10:42 PM   #2
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NOT IF YOU GO WITH A SCOUT MOUNT AND A LONG EYE RELIEF SCOPE
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Old 04-14-2008, 10:48 PM   #3
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What big buddy said.

What I plan to do, instead of destroying a very historic item, I'll just buy the one that's already been modded for centerfire...

7.62x54R Nagant Rifle<br>with Matte Black Stock<br>Part #RUS-ACT-PKG - RUS-ACT-PKG

That, plus a scout scope and scout scope mount...

Could be anywhere around $170-$200 if you buy a cheap scope.

=] And that's still really cheap for any rifle!

Hehe...

I can't wait to get my paycheck!!
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Old 04-15-2008, 12:25 AM   #4
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Instead Centerfire has destroyed a 91/30 by cutting the barrel back by quite a bit. Hopefully, it's more recycling a semi-shotout barrel than destruction. It would be a shame if some of those 91/30's were collectables.

The plastic front blade sight is a nice touch.

Better just to buy and M38 and sporterize it. At least you can return it to original collectable condition down the road.

M38 = $90
Scout scope and mount = $72
ATI Camo Stock = $90
or ATI Black stock = $50

Total $212 to $252 Still a bargain and you get the original iron sights.

Just a thought.
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:21 AM   #5
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Instead Centerfire has destroyed a 91/30 by cutting the barrel back by quite a bit. Hopefully, it's more recycling a semi-shotout barrel than destruction. It would be a shame if some of those 91/30's were collectables.

The plastic front blade sight is a nice touch.

Better just to buy and M38 and sporterize it. At least you can return it to original collectable condition down the road.

M38 = $90
Scout scope and mount = $72
ATI Camo Stock = $90
or ATI Black stock = $50

+1

Total $212 to $252 Still a bargain and you get the original iron sights.

Just a thought.
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Old 04-15-2008, 12:07 PM   #6
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PE mounts can be had for round or hex receivers.

It is not unusual to have as much, or a lot more tied up in optics for a rifle.

You can still use your iron sights with a PE on a M91/30. For M38 you'll have to measure.
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:22 PM   #7
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i wouldnt ruin a M38 by drill and tapping it for a mount that may not fit, buy yourself a M91/30 and PE that rifle. Buy scout mount for your M38 and do that.

DON'T BUBBAFY THAT PERFECTLY NICE M38.
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:05 PM   #8
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Why wouldn't it fit? Why is scoping a M38 a BUBBA job, but it is not on a M44 or M91/30? Rarity? Not really.
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:34 PM   #9
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Maybe it's because (to the best of my knowlege) the P series scope was never mounted on carbines. On the other hand none of the carbines were set up for any type of scope, as sniping was not exactly their forte'.

So that doesn't mean it shouldn't be done, and it would probably look pretty cool, but "you'll put your eye out".

I kinda like the LER scope having a 9 inch eye-buffer zone when shooting Bulgarian HB.
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Old 04-15-2008, 03:57 PM   #10
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ok....i forget the exact model numbers....M39, M91/59, somewhere along there....they were cut-down 91/30's....I dunno if they have the built-in dovetails like a 91/30....if they do, then grab one of them demons, and scout the monster....if not, then go buck wild with whatever kind of mount you wanna get for it....Geo, tisk tisk tisk, dontcha know that the 'Blackeyenitis' syndrome is what happens when an individual suffering from 'Mosinitis' contracts the 'Opticitis' disease? Geez....figured ppl would've noticed the face on the smily:
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Old 04-15-2008, 05:47 PM   #11
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see i dont really like LER scopes...
they dont look good in my opinion.
but then again that would be freakishly cheaper.

i dunno.
but ill be sure to let everybody know if i decide to do anything
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Old 04-15-2008, 07:02 PM   #12
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My opinion is you should have a machinist or gunsmith drill and tap your receiver and go that way. I've never liked the way the scout mount looks except with shorter rifles with a red dot. Also scout mount eliminates your irons. I'm wanting to have my SKS receiver drilled and tapped when I get the green.
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Old 04-15-2008, 07:05 PM   #13
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i hate the looks of a scout mount myself.
and i OWN one!
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Old 04-16-2008, 12:19 AM   #14
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Try cutting off the unused ends of the mount. The barrel bands are gone now.
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You see, I love EVERYTHING about Geo's rifle, except the scope being way out there and way up that high!
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i like the way the scout mount looks when there's no adapter used (91/30 based receivers only).
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