I got a question on how to change the head spacing on these old rifles.
My mossin m44 is hard to fully lock into position with a round. Before anyone tells me to clean it thoroughly let me say that i have. Many many times. I am wondering if this is a relatively easy thing for a gunsmith to do or is it not worth even trying to do. and if it is worth doing whats a average price range for such work?
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Marion, Is the headspace too tight ? OR is the bolt cam surface just a bit rough? Being that the mosin headspaces on the rim, if the bolt closes all the way on a cartridge, headspace is correct...
Rich
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what happens is i CAN actually chamber a round and fire its just that the bolt stops half way into the locked position and i have to give it a slam so to speak to get it to lock in place all the way. I switched out the bolt with my buddies m44 bolt and it worked great so i assume it is my bolts head space that is the problem.
what happens is i CAN actually chamber a round and fire its just that the bolt stops half way into the locked position and i have to give it a slam so to speak to get it to lock in place all the way. I switched out the bolt with my buddies m44 bolt and it worked great so i assume it is my bolts head space that is the problem.
Take the bolt apart and check it !!
finally we got a bolt guy here to help..I am only thee go between Moosman maybe you can help him out I think his problem is extractor related but maybe he can tell you
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what happens is i CAN actually chamber a round and fire its just that the bolt stops half way into the locked position and i have to give it a slam so to speak to get it to lock in place all the way. I switched out the bolt with my buddies m44 bolt and it worked great so i assume it is my bolts head space that is the problem.
It may not be a headspace problem, It may be a slight clearance problem on the camming surface of the Bolt itself in one of 2 locations...First thing is to make sure your firing pin is adjusted to specification, It should be more than 75 and less than 95 on the gauge tool (Screwdriver)...
Rich
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Sounds kind of like the extractor isn't going over the rim. This could be due to cosmoline gunking up the extractor or just a dirty extractor groove. I also suggest cleaning your bolt, especially the extractor, very well with mineral spirits and then giving it a light oiling.
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Sounds kind of like the extractor isn't going over the rim. This could be due to cosmoline gunking up the extractor or just a dirty extractor groove. I also suggest cleaning your bolt, especially the extractor, very well with mineral spirits and then giving it a light oiling.
he said he has already cleaned the bolt many times JAC but you know how that goes I found some cosmolene in my ex sniper evern after cleaning it sevral times .I would take it apart ad compare all the part s to a bolt that works.. another idea is to use his buddys bolt and give his to his buddy LOL
.. maybe not
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he said he has already cleaned the bolt many times JAC but you know how that goes I found some cosmolene in my ex sniper evern after cleaning it sevral times .I would take it apart ad compare all the part s to a bolt that works.. another idea is to use his buddys bolt and give his to his buddy LOL
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Well, I could technically say the same thing. I've cleaned my mosin many times and cleaned the bolt many times.... but I've never intentionally cleaned under the extractor. There could be a nice layer of cosmolene under there just waiting for me. That's why I specified getting under and around the extractor; he may not have done that yet.
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So thanks to everyone i found out that my problem was my extractor i ended up prying it out ever so slightly and now it works great.
I got another advice sort of question. I was thinking about getting a muzzle break for my m44 do you think that its a good idea? do they really help with recoil?
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I don't think they are a good idea, they fly off sometimes when you shoot them and they really don't help with recoil. A good recoil pad is recommended, limbsaver is a good one.
If you do get a muzzle brake, don't get one that pins on. Get one that screws on, have the barrel tapped for it, screw it on and then silver-solder it into place so it stays put. They run about $60 on gunbroker.com when they are up for auction.
As soon as I get my hands on the brake, I'll be sending it down to Scotty to see if he can install it on a 91/30 so that, when I lace on a recoil pad, my bad shoulder won't get beaten up.
