Sheriff Joe, You Gotta Love His Style...

Marine1 · 04-25-2008, 05:10 PM

Arizona sheriff stirs furor with crackdown on illegals....

GUADALUPE, Ariz. (AP) - The self-proclaimed "toughest sheriff in America" has been making forays into Phoenix and nearby Guadalupe and sweeping up illegal immigrants, drawing howls of protest from the cities' mayors and other community leaders.

Arizona sheriff stirs furor with crackdown on illegals

Sheriff's Office: Maricopa County, Az

Maricopa County Sheriff's Office

A-10 · 04-25-2008, 05:17 PM

About time.

ArkansasHunter · 04-25-2008, 05:17 PM

I could'nt read it all because I thought I would PUKE ! I love this guy Sheriff Joe and wished we had more like him !
These local leader's that love illegals should be ran out of office !
Why are they covered by our Bill of Rights when there here illegaly ?

GO AHEAD JOE !!!!!

boesman82 · 04-25-2008, 05:19 PM

Get them, yeah

tlarkin · 04-25-2008, 05:23 PM

well this is why we treat everyone equally, regardless of citizenship

Quote:

"all men are by nature equally free and independent, and have certain inherent rights of which … [they cannot divest;] namely, the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and possessing property, and pursuing and obtaining happiness and safety."

I still think our government should get these other countries government's involved so they can take some responsibility.

Seabeescotty · 04-25-2008, 06:18 PM

Go, Sheriff Joe, go.........

TACAV · 04-25-2008, 06:25 PM

I love this guy, old school. When there wernt any Feds to handle the problem he had all his deputies federalized.

ICE agents still accompany his deputies on raids anyways but still... Awsome.

Coeloptera · 04-25-2008, 06:55 PM

Hmm hmm...yes, well.

These are illegal aliens, yes?

And he is within his legal authority to pursue these actions?

And he isn't violating anyone's civil rights, correct?

As for racial profiling, this is occuring in Guadalupe, AZ, isn't it? Correct me if I'm wrong but is there not a sizable Latino population there? One could hardly help but get Latinos in a sweep, especially since, as the article states, 73 of 150 people arrested were illegals.

That's 48.7% of the people arrested and thus, by the numbers alone, about half of those arrested must be Latinos. So if you're seeing a large number of Latinos arrested, one must remember that at least 48.7% of all those arrested are both illegal and Latino. Add in the demographics of that region and a clear majority of those arrested will be Latino, based purely on those figures and simple enforcement of existing law.

I would say the data precludes a racial bias upon cursory examination.

I will also note that ICE has no reports of abuses by Arpaio's office. The gentleman can be as tough as he likes, but it seems he always abides by the law. I can't remember any civil rights charges sticking against him.

I'll just mention the last bit because it's irksome: "'If I see immigration officers,' he said, 'it's like I see the devil.'"

Now I think we're exaggerating just a touch here. In the US we're hardly as bad as all that. The worst that usually tends to happen is jailtime (if any outstanding warrents exist) or deportation of someone who has no legal right to be here.

- Coeloptera

Marine1 · 04-25-2008, 07:36 PM

Joe is not one to be caught up in the political arena. He is an "old school copper", that believes in enforcing the law, come hell or high-water. Most of your upper-command today are politically motivated. One would need to have even been in the law enforcement field of endeavor to understand the inner-departmental workings of the political vices at hand, where promotions to these upper command ranks are the issues. Many "old shoe street grunts", prefer to remain "street grunts", rather than to be caught up in this (bend over, I have the power)....political correctness society. This (IMO) seperates Joe from the chain of politics. This is (more than likely) why, he is re-elected by a "land-slide" vote margin each term, by the Maricopa County, Arizona voters. The numbers speak for themselves, I would think? As I said previously...You simply gotta' love Sheriff Joe , for his untiring law enforcement efforts, and the unique job he does for the people of Maricopa County.

stalebiscuit · 04-25-2008, 07:49 PM

not much the mayors and shit can doing seeing as how sheriffs are elected to

Windwalker · 04-25-2008, 08:07 PM

I have nothing but praise and respect for Sheriff Joe.

22plinker · 04-25-2008, 08:44 PM

I wish we had more just like Sheriff Joe Arpaio! He does a great job, ENFORCING THE LAW! That's why he is re-elected. "Illegal" means "not legal" therefore, in violation of the law. Go JOE! We, the taxpayers of Arizona support you!

jerry · 04-26-2008, 08:21 AM

Last time I brought up Sheriff Joe, thought I had started a battle.
http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/pol...i-n-em-up.html

CalifgirlinOk · 04-26-2008, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Windwalker

I have nothing but praise and respect for Sheriff Joe.

I'm with you 100% Windwalker

Marine1 · 04-26-2008, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerry

Last time I brought up Sheriff Joe, thought I had started a battle.
http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/pol...i-n-em-up.html

Thank you for bringing your post up previously jerry. You have a right to your opinion and to post your thoughts. (If I may)..., Law enforcement has never been a popularity contest, but, (in many cases) can be a political contest if one chooses to be caught up into it's web. I would think Joe does not care much, about what any person or group of persons think about his law enforcement endeavors of enforcement, nor of him on a personal level. IMO, (as a former law enforcement officer), and... (respectfully speaking), if one does not wish any personal contact with Sheriff Joe..........Simply....

"Don't break the laws, within his jurisdiction, for which he has sworn to uphold"!

Otter · 04-26-2008, 04:40 PM

We need more like him, everywhere! I'd like to see the nation fence off our borders, post military people along the borders with loaded weapons, then start at the four corners of the country and round up the illegals. Work their way to the center and deport everyone who is illegal. Make the wetbacks swarm back to Mexico.
This country is full of people who hate us and they continue to drift in like the wind.

Coeloptera · 04-27-2008, 10:57 PM

Hrm...spoke too soon.

azcentral.com | Phoenix Arizona News - Arizona Local News

Almost a million dollars worth of settlements on two cases he's involved in.

The others are iffy. The Nick Tar case isn't as much so. Looks like they were trying to intimidate the guy by picking him up. I saw a pic of him and there's literally no way he could be mistaken for an officer.

- Coeloptera

jerry · 04-28-2008, 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marine1

Thank you for bringing your post up previously jerry. You have a right to your opinion and to post your thoughts.

Please allow me to clarify, It was not a jab at your post. I was simply showing how one bunch of folks are all about it one day then the other....................just interesting.

patrick70 · 04-28-2008, 09:26 AM

We need more people like him.They take jobs away from americans,alot don't even pay taxes,and look at gangs like ms-13,where did they come from.The damm liberals are always sticking up for them.Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is the same as calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed Pharmacist".

FISHPOND · 04-28-2008, 09:51 AM

I live in Arizona, and we re-elect him every year for a reason.

04-25-2008, 05:10 PM	#1
Marine1 Runnin' With The Big Dogs Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 862 Trader Rating: (0)	Sheriff Joe, You Gotta Love His Style... Arizona sheriff stirs furor with crackdown on illegals.... GUADALUPE, Ariz. (AP) - The self-proclaimed "toughest sheriff in America" has been making forays into Phoenix and nearby Guadalupe and sweeping up illegal immigrants, drawing howls of protest from the cities' mayors and other community leaders. Arizona sheriff stirs furor with crackdown on illegals Sheriff's Office: Maricopa County, Az Maricopa County Sheriff's Office

04-25-2008, 05:17 PM	#2
A-10 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 724 Trader Rating: (0)	About time. __________________ If there's nothing worth dying for, there's nothing worth living for.

04-25-2008, 05:19 PM	#4
boesman82 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Richmond,VA Posts: 32 Trader Rating: (0)	Get them, yeah __________________ God bless America Semper Fideles

04-25-2008, 06:18 PM	#6
Seabeescotty Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Jay, Oklahoma, God's country. Posts: 3,675 Trader Rating: (0)	Go, Sheriff Joe, go......... __________________ Adapt, improvise, overcome.-Gysgt Highway, Heartbreak Ridge

04-25-2008, 08:07 PM	#11
Windwalker Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 3,209 Trader Rating: (0)	I have nothing but praise and respect for Sheriff Joe. __________________ America: Love it and protect it or leave it

04-25-2008, 05:17 PM	#3
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,465 Trader Rating: (0)	I could'nt read it all because I thought I would PUKE ! I love this guy Sheriff Joe and wished we had more like him ! These local leader's that love illegals should be ran out of office ! Why are they covered by our Bill of Rights when there here illegaly ? GO AHEAD JOE !!!!!

04-25-2008, 06:25 PM	#7
TACAV Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 527 Trader Rating: (0)	I love this guy, old school. When there wernt any Feds to handle the problem he had all his deputies federalized. ICE agents still accompany his deputies on raids anyways but still... Awsome.

04-25-2008, 06:55 PM	#8
Coeloptera Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,405 Trader Rating: (0)	Hmm hmm...yes, well. These are illegal aliens, yes? And he is within his legal authority to pursue these actions? And he isn't violating anyone's civil rights, correct? As for racial profiling, this is occuring in Guadalupe, AZ, isn't it? Correct me if I'm wrong but is there not a sizable Latino population there? One could hardly help but get Latinos in a sweep, especially since, as the article states, 73 of 150 people arrested were illegals. That's 48.7% of the people arrested and thus, by the numbers alone, about half of those arrested must be Latinos. So if you're seeing a large number of Latinos arrested, one must remember that at least 48.7% of all those arrested are both illegal and Latino. Add in the demographics of that region and a clear majority of those arrested will be Latino, based purely on those figures and simple enforcement of existing law. I would say the data precludes a racial bias upon cursory examination. I will also note that ICE has no reports of abuses by Arpaio's office. The gentleman can be as tough as he likes, but it seems he always abides by the law. I can't remember any civil rights charges sticking against him. I'll just mention the last bit because it's irksome: "'If I see immigration officers,' he said, 'it's like I see the devil.'" Now I think we're exaggerating just a touch here. In the US we're hardly as bad as all that. The worst that usually tends to happen is jailtime (if any outstanding warrents exist) or deportation of someone who has no legal right to be here. - Coeloptera

04-25-2008, 07:36 PM	#9
Marine1 Runnin' With The Big Dogs Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 862 Trader Rating: (0)	Joe is not one to be caught up in the political arena. He is an "old school copper", that believes in enforcing the law, come hell or high-water. Most of your upper-command today are politically motivated. One would need to have even been in the law enforcement field of endeavor to understand the inner-departmental workings of the political vices at hand, where promotions to these upper command ranks are the issues. Many "old shoe street grunts", prefer to remain "street grunts", rather than to be caught up in this (bend over, I have the power)....political correctness society. This (IMO) seperates Joe from the chain of politics. This is (more than likely) why, he is re-elected by a "land-slide" vote margin each term, by the Maricopa County, Arizona voters. The numbers speak for themselves, I would think? As I said previously...You simply gotta' love Sheriff Joe , for his untiring law enforcement efforts, and the unique job he does for the people of Maricopa County.

04-25-2008, 07:49 PM	#10
stalebiscuit Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: atlanta, but much rather be in valdosta Posts: 1,357 Trader Rating: (0)	not much the mayors and shit can doing seeing as how sheriffs are elected to

04-25-2008, 08:44 PM	#12
22plinker Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Yuma, AZ Posts: 48 Trader Rating: (0)	I wish we had more just like Sheriff Joe Arpaio! He does a great job, ENFORCING THE LAW! That's why he is re-elected. "Illegal" means "not legal" therefore, in violation of the law. Go JOE! We, the taxpayers of Arizona support you!

04-26-2008, 08:21 AM	#13
jerry Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 10,757 Trader Rating: (0)	Last time I brought up Sheriff Joe, thought I had started a battle. http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/pol...i-n-em-up.html

04-26-2008, 04:40 PM	#16
Otter Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vermont Posts: 937 Trader Rating: (0)	We need more like him, everywhere! I'd like to see the nation fence off our borders, post military people along the borders with loaded weapons, then start at the four corners of the country and round up the illegals. Work their way to the center and deport everyone who is illegal. Make the wetbacks swarm back to Mexico. This country is full of people who hate us and they continue to drift in like the wind. __________________ Life is too important to be taken seriously.

04-27-2008, 10:57 PM	#17
Coeloptera Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,405 Trader Rating: (0)	Hrm...spoke too soon. azcentral.com \| Phoenix Arizona News - Arizona Local News Almost a million dollars worth of settlements on two cases he's involved in. The others are iffy. The Nick Tar case isn't as much so. Looks like they were trying to intimidate the guy by picking him up. I saw a pic of him and there's literally no way he could be mistaken for an officer. - Coeloptera

04-28-2008, 09:26 AM	#19
patrick70 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 285 Trader Rating: (0)	We need more people like him.They take jobs away from americans,alot don't even pay taxes,and look at gangs like ms-13,where did they come from.The damm liberals are always sticking up for them.Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is the same as calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed Pharmacist".

04-28-2008, 09:51 AM	#20
FISHPOND Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Arizona Posts: 92 Trader Rating: (0)	I live in Arizona, and we re-elect him every year for a reason.