Former Alabama Judges Poem - Page 2

troy2000 · 05-01-2008, 10:01 AM

I repeat: I don't care whether the Ten Commandments are in a courtroom or not. For all I care, a judge can put up a life-sized statue of Ma'at, the Egyptian God of Justice.

I do care that Moore sneaked his sculpture in during the middle of the night, then refused to obey a court order to remove it. If he was refusing to obey court orders himself, he had no business issuing them to other people for a living.

andrew cochran · 05-01-2008, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ArkansasHunter

Since he was a Judge then maybe he felt what he did was right and the others were wrong.

Texas T said

epending on who your God is...everybody's God is different.

I beleive in the true and only liveing God who is the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Mine's not different he's the same today as he was yesterday and before then.

Who's your's ?

Well said! I am glad AH posted this thread.

ArkansasHunter · 05-01-2008, 11:46 AM

O.K troy when the court orders you someday to turn your firearms over I expect you to load them up in your truck or car and give them to them with out a whimpper.

GM this is still the Bible belt, though it may be smaller than in years past.
Haveing ran a route for 26 years I assure everyone here, we still have Bibles in our schools and the 10 Commandments hanging on the walls of our schools.
And prayer before sporting events.
Our Court house's that I've seen still actknoldge God of the Bible too.

Interesting to me that Washington D.C has inscriptions of God of the Bible all over the federal buildings and No group or Judge has made the Federal goverment remove them !

So tell me the differents ? Why did this Judge have to remove his stuff when in Washington D.C. Has the same every where ?

You ANTICHRIST'S !!!

andrew cochran · 05-01-2008, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ArkansasHunter

O.K troy when the court orders you someday to turn your firearms over I expect you to load them up in your truck or car and give them to them with out a whimpper.

GM this is still the Bible belt, though it may be smaller than in years past.
Haveing ran a route for 26 years I assure everyone here, we still have Bibles in our schools and the 10 Commandments hanging on the walls of our schools.
And prayer before sporting events.
Our Court house's that I've seen still actknoldge God of the Bible too.

Interesting to me that Washington D.C has inscriptions of God of the Bible all over the federal buildings and No group or Judge has made the Federal goverment remove them !

So tell me the differents ? Why did this Judge have to remove his stuff when in Washington D.C. Has the same every where ?

You ANTICHRIST'S !!!

Well said!

troy2000 · 05-01-2008, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ArkansasHunter

O.K troy when the court orders you someday to turn your firearms over I expect you to load them up in your truck or car and give them to them with out a whimpper.
GM this is still the Bible belt, though it may be smaller than in years past.
Haveing ran a route for 26 years I assure everyone here, we still have Bibles in our schools and the 10 Commandments hanging on the walls of our schools.
And prayer before sporting events.
Our Court house's that I've seen still actknoldge God of the Bible too.
Interesting to me that Washington D.C has inscriptions of God of the Bible all over the federal buildings and No group or Judge has made the Federal goverment remove them !
So tell me the differents ? Why did this Judge have to remove his stuff when in Washington D.C. Has the same every where ?
You ANTICHRIST'S !!!

I doubt I'll ever face that problem to begin with, Mike; I'm not a felon and I don't beat my wife. But what do you think I'd do if a judge laid a court order on me to hand over my guns? Tell him to screw himself and go to prison after they confiscated them anyway? Or cough up the guns, then go hire a lawyer to try to get them back?

But I think you're missing my point. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with the Ten Commandments being there; I'm saying it's wrong for a judge who enforces the law for a living to tell a higher court to go screw itself, regardless of what it's about.

The difference between him and the inscriptions in Washington D.C. is that he made his sculpture the focal point of the entire building; he sneaked it in during the dark of night and basically dared anyone to do anything about it; and then he refused a lawful court order.

I ask you again: how can a man issue court orders to other people for a living and expect to keep his job, when he's busy disobeying a court order himself?

damage855 · 05-01-2008, 12:36 PM

So if the court orders us all to give up our guns we should do it? I believe in the constitution and our legal system but they have went astray in the past few decades because many have forgotten that they are both based on the bible and jewish and christian law and values.

ArkansasHunter · 05-01-2008, 12:42 PM

troy2000 I agree with you, if it's a law and he broke it then so be it.
On the other hand, being who I am and who I beleive in I am proud that he stood up for his convictions. We need more like him in all realms of goverment I feel.
And the town was behind him.
Mike

andrew cochran · 05-01-2008, 12:49 PM

People do need to stand up for thier convictions.

troy2000 · 05-01-2008, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ArkansasHunter

troy2000 I agree with you, if it's a law and he broke it then so be it.
On the other hand, being who I am and who I beleive in I am proud that he stood up for his convictions. We need more like him in all realms of goverment I feel.
And the town was behind him.
Mike

I don't have a problem with you feeling that way, Mike.

Silent Shooter · 05-01-2008, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by andrew cochran

People do need to stand up for thier convictions.

As long as they agree with ours...

I am absolutely sure you do not want Hitlary standing up for hers...

ArkansasHunter · 05-01-2008, 05:00 PM

LOL !!! I wonder what Hillary looks like in curlers LOL !!!

troy2000 · 05-01-2008, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ArkansasHunter

LOL !!! I wonder what Hillary looks like in curlers LOL !!!

There are some things we are not meant to know, for our own good, Mike...

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Originally Posted by damage855

So if the court orders us all to give up our guns we should do it? I believe in the constitution and our legal system but they have went astray in the past few decades because many have forgotten that they are both based on the bible and jewish and christian law and values.

You're carrying the idea to an illogical extreme. It has little or nothing to do with whether Roy Moore should've defied the court order he was given. It's like asking, "so if the courts told us to go out and murder our neighbors we should do it?"

And by the way, our laws are not "based" on the Bible, or on Chriustian and Jewish law. We are not a theocracy. I could give you a pretty good exposition on the roots of American law, but I don't see any point in it; I doubt it would change your mind about anything.

TexasT · 05-01-2008, 05:46 PM

I don't mind that people stand up for their convictions. The thing we must remember is that this is America and it is very diverse our convictions are not the same. How would you feel if an extremist of *insert religion here* were to sneak in their holy texts for all to view? You probably wouldn't like it so much. I wouldn't have minded the Ten Commandments, I think they are very good rules to live by.

Another point to make is that I don't like people in power doing things in the name of religion. I am a Christian but at the same time I don't want the actions of someone who says their a Christian to represent me. Not every "Christian" is righteous. I can speak for myself. I don't have to make a spectacle.

shrub · 05-01-2008, 06:09 PM

Well the Constitution says seperation of curch and state. If you say that this doesnt apply to this situation it is the same as the gun grabbers saying "the right to bear arms" doesnt apply to law abiding american citisens.

troy2000 · 05-01-2008, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by shrub

Well the Constitution says seperation of curch and state. If you say that this doesnt apply to this situation it is the same as the gun grabbers saying "the right to bear arms" doesnt apply to law abiding american citisens.

Uh-oh. Now you've gone and done it, shrub.

Brace yourself for a flood of posts passionately informing you that the words 'separation of church and state' are nowhere to be found in the Consitution...and most will also say that neither is the principle, although I disagree.

Brother Bob · 05-01-2008, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by shrub

Well the Constitution says seperation of curch and state. If you say that this doesnt apply to this situation it is the same as the gun grabbers saying "the right to bear arms" doesnt apply to law abiding american citisens.

I have a copy of the Constitution in front of me. Please tell me where it says that?

troy2000 · 05-01-2008, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Bob

I have a copy of the Constitution in front of me. Please tell me where it says that?

And Brother Bob is first in line.

TexasT · 05-01-2008, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by troy2000

And Brother Bob is first in line.

He's also first in line at the buffet.

Brother Bob · 05-01-2008, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TexasT

He's also first in line at the buffet.

Can you put a moderator on the "ignore list"?

TexasT · 05-01-2008, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Bob

Can you put a moderator on the "ignore list"?

What's the matter? You don't like the truth?

05-01-2008, 10:01 AM	#21
troy2000 Resident Armed Liberal Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern California Posts: 9,465 Images: 9	I repeat: I don't care whether the Ten Commandments are in a courtroom or not. For all I care, a judge can put up a life-sized statue of Ma'at, the Egyptian God of Justice. I do care that Moore sneaked his sculpture in during the middle of the night, then refused to obey a court order to remove it. If he was refusing to obey court orders himself, he had no business issuing them to other people for a living. __________________ If a million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing. -Anatole France

05-01-2008, 12:36 PM	#26
damage855 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: North Carolina / Lake Norman Posts: 931 Blog Entries: 1	So if the court orders us all to give up our guns we should do it? I believe in the constitution and our legal system but they have went astray in the past few decades because many have forgotten that they are both based on the bible and jewish and christian law and values. __________________ If total goverment control will make us all safer, then why are prisons so dangerous?

05-01-2008, 12:49 PM	#28
andrew cochran Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Little town in ARKANSAW! Posts: 2,157	People do need to stand up for thier convictions. __________________ If you don't have anything good to say... Don't say it!

05-01-2008, 05:46 PM	#33
TexasT Mrs. HMFIC Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Everywhere you want to be. Posts: 4,218 Blog Entries: 16	I don't mind that people stand up for their convictions. The thing we must remember is that this is America and it is very diverse our convictions are not the same. How would you feel if an extremist of insert religion here were to sneak in their holy texts for all to view? You probably wouldn't like it so much. I wouldn't have minded the Ten Commandments, I think they are very good rules to live by. Another point to make is that I don't like people in power doing things in the name of religion. I am a Christian but at the same time I don't want the actions of someone who says their a Christian to represent me. Not every "Christian" is righteous. I can speak for myself. I don't have to make a spectacle. __________________ I'm just a little bit caught in the middle. Life is a maze. Love is a riddle.

05-01-2008, 11:46 AM	#23
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,714	O.K troy when the court orders you someday to turn your firearms over I expect you to load them up in your truck or car and give them to them with out a whimpper. GM this is still the Bible belt, though it may be smaller than in years past. Haveing ran a route for 26 years I assure everyone here, we still have Bibles in our schools and the 10 Commandments hanging on the walls of our schools. And prayer before sporting events. Our Court house's that I've seen still actknoldge God of the Bible too. Interesting to me that Washington D.C has inscriptions of God of the Bible all over the federal buildings and No group or Judge has made the Federal goverment remove them ! So tell me the differents ? Why did this Judge have to remove his stuff when in Washington D.C. Has the same every where ? You ANTICHRIST'S !!!

05-01-2008, 12:42 PM	#27
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,714	troy2000 I agree with you, if it's a law and he broke it then so be it. On the other hand, being who I am and who I beleive in I am proud that he stood up for his convictions. We need more like him in all realms of goverment I feel. And the town was behind him. Mike

05-01-2008, 05:00 PM	#31
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,714	LOL !!! I wonder what Hillary looks like in curlers LOL !!!

05-01-2008, 06:09 PM	#34
shrub Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Guilford Vt. Posts: 106	Well the Constitution says seperation of curch and state. If you say that this doesnt apply to this situation it is the same as the gun grabbers saying "the right to bear arms" doesnt apply to law abiding american citisens.