Idaho student says teacher tossed his Mexican Flag into the trash

Midas · 05-07-2008, 05:31 PM

Idaho student says teacher tossed his Mexican flag in trash - Yahoo! News

Cyrano · 05-07-2008, 05:58 PM

I've never understood why Cinco de Mayo is "celebrated" in the United States anyway. It's not like St. Patrick's Day, or Caribbean Pride Day, or the Feast of St. Anthony, which are ethnic holidays that don't refer to anything historical apart from where your ancestors came from. It's not like Juneteenth, which celebrates the Emancipation Proclamation that freed the black African slaves. And it's surely not like Veterans Day or Memorial Day, which celebrate our armed forces and those who have served the country.

It's a holiday that belongs to another country. As far as I can tell, the only excuse it has for being "celebrated" in America is to sell beer so apathetic you have to add citrus juice to it to make it palatable, tequila (which if aged properly is quite good), pseudio-Mexican cuisine dinner specials at chain restaurants, and give irresponsible college kids yet another excuse to get drunk midweek. It has no connection whatever to the history of the United States of America.

Mad Hatter · 05-07-2008, 06:05 PM

It sounds like the Mexican kids were trying to stir things up with the flag bit, so good for the teacher..

CrazyIvan · 05-07-2008, 06:06 PM

Stupid F'n idiots. If you are so proud of Mexico...why do you want to live here? Go live there if you believe it is so awesome you dumbasses.

dhermesc · 05-07-2008, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad Hatter

It sounds like the Mexican kids were trying to stir things up with the flag bit, so good for the teacher..

Any chance the teacher wiped their arse with it before it went into the trash?

patrick70 · 05-07-2008, 06:27 PM

Notice how quick the aclu jumped on that.

CrazyIvan · 05-07-2008, 06:31 PM

I am interested, does the ACLU fight to get a foothold for their organization IN Mexico?

I doubt it.

Brother Bob · 05-07-2008, 07:12 PM

Let me get this straight. You can abuse the U.S. flag any way you want , but you can't throw the Mexican flag in the trash without the wrath of the ACLU???????????

TexasT · 05-07-2008, 07:21 PM

What's ACLU stand for again? Alien Civil Liberties Union?

tlarkin · 05-07-2008, 07:25 PM

Well, there is nothing saying that the kid couldn't have the flag and there is certainly nothing illegal about it, and I suppose that refusing someone to own a flag of another country could be against someone's civil liberties.

I am born and raised American, but I also have an Ireland flag because that is where my family (my name) originally came from. If someone threw my flag in the trash I'd be pissed off too.

Brother Bob · 05-07-2008, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tlarkin

Well, there is nothing saying that the kid couldn't have the flag and there is certainly nothing illegal about it, and I suppose that refusing someone to own a flag of another country could be against someone's civil liberties.

I am born and raised American, but I also have an Ireland flag because that is where my family (my name) originally came from. If someone threw my flag in the trash I'd be pissed off too.

Yeah bud, but we're not being invaded by Ireland right now and at least the Irish learned to speak English when they came here! LOL!

tlarkin · 05-07-2008, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Bob

Yeah bud, but we're not being invaded by Ireland right now and at least the Irish learned to speak English when they came here! LOL!

We aren't being invaded by anyone....invaded? We are at war with Mexico huh? Or Asia or any other large immigrant group that comes to America huh?

I don't know where you get your information from, but the problem isn't just illegal immigrants, it is a multi layered issue that stems across many branches of our own government and their policy. If we didn't run things a certain way we wouldn't have all these issues, and instead of pointing the blame on something like illegal immigration and buying into all the crap propaganda out there about it, maybe we could get something done.

Don't you understand that crap like this is spat at us for all sides to keep us from uniting and actually making a change?

For once, please do not think unilaterally.

Windwalker · 05-07-2008, 07:45 PM

Tlarkin, I agree. If Americans students were in Mexico celebrating an American Holiday and some Mexican Official threw the American Flag in the trash we Americans would be highly p---ed off. As long as the flag wasn't illegally flown it should be treated with the same respect as we would want for our flag.

Brother Bob · 05-07-2008, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by tlarkin

We aren't being invaded by anyone....invaded? We are at war with Mexico huh? Or Asia or any other large immigrant group that comes to America huh?

I don't know where you get your information from, but the problem isn't just illegal immigrants, it is a multi layered issue that stems across many branches of our own government and their policy. If we didn't run things a certain way we wouldn't have all these issues, and instead of pointing the blame on something like illegal immigration and buying into all the crap propaganda out there about it, maybe we could get something done.

Don't you understand that crap like this is spat at us for all sides to keep us from uniting and actually making a change?

For once, please do not think unilaterally.

I get my information from the radio, TV, and the newspaper. Where do you get your information from? My last thread was meant to be humorous. Tough day at the office????????

tlarkin · 05-07-2008, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Bob

I get my information from the radio, TV, and the newspaper. Where do you get your information from? My last thread was meant to be humorous. Tough day at the office????????

No, not really, just prepping for summer projects, plus I prefer to be busy at work it makes the days go by faster.

No, I am not trying to snap at you, but it just irks me how people like to blame shift every problem we have on two things, when in fact it goes way deeper than that to begin with. Plus, our government is taking no measures what so ever to make any other country take some responsibility to begin with.

Brother Bob · 05-07-2008, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Windwalker

Tlarkin, I agree. If Americans students were in Mexico celebrating an American Holiday and some Mexican Official threw the American Flag in the trash we Americans would be highly p---ed off. As long as the flag wasn't illegally flown it should be treated with the same respect as we would want for our flag.

Fat chance of that happening, and NO, nothing would happen if it did!

TexasT · 05-07-2008, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tlarkin

No, I am not trying to snap at you, but it just irks me how people like to blame shift every problem we have on two things, when in fact it goes way deeper than that to begin with. Plus, our government is taking no measures what so ever to make any other country take some responsibility to begin with.

This is so true. This week I encountered a presumed illegal couple in the infertility clinic. I had to step back and think for a second. Why are we paying for unfunded, illegal citizens get pregnant? Why are we paying for unfunded (legal) citizens to get pregnant anyway? Especially if they already have a kid. If you can't afford the diagnostic scans then you probably can't afford to take care of a child. Anyways, that's my pet peeve, but I digress. Maybe I shouldn't be making those judgments because I guess I don't understand enough about becoming a legal citizen in America. I'd think it would require you to speak and understand at least some English to sign paper work and say the pledge or whatever they do.

I don't care about people having pride for their country while in America. Then again it comes down to that issues that it's still a stinkin' piece of cloth.

tlarkin · 05-07-2008, 08:06 PM

My friend is Vietnamese and he came to the US when he was like 1 or 2 years old. His father got his citizenship and his mother opted not to so he was not grandfathered in. If both his parents had gotten their citizenship then he would have gotten his. There is an exam you must pass, plus the cost is nearly $1,000 dollars. He just got his (he is like 25 or so) a few months ago because I was yelling at him to quit spending money on iPhones and xboxes and to go get his citizenship. He got his for around $450ish dollars and he told me that the price just went up to just under $1,000 and he was lucky to get his done when he did (several months ago) because he got it done right before the hike in price.

Why in the hell would any immigrant who is making poverty level wages want to pay nearly $1,000 to become a citizen?

What incentive is there to do so?

Stop blaming the immigrants and start blaming retarded ass government policy.

Brother Bob · 05-07-2008, 08:09 PM

Well I don't feel like writing a thesis tonight on this topic. Not only that, Texas-T would get on to me for paragraphs and spelling! LOL!

TexasT · 05-07-2008, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Bob

Well I don't feel like writing a thesis tonight on this topic. Not only that, Texas-T would get on to me for paragraphs and spelling! LOL!

Darn tootin! Paragraphs Brobo, paragraphs...

05-07-2008, 05:31 PM	#1
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CrazyIvan Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Englewood, CO Posts: 3,413 Blog Entries: 1	Stupid F'n idiots. If you are so proud of Mexico...why do you want to live here? Go live there if you believe it is so awesome you dumbasses. __________________ "Minimum wage, minimum effort." "Never underestimate the power of stupidity." ~Me

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Cyrano Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: New York Posts: 6,917	I've never understood why Cinco de Mayo is "celebrated" in the United States anyway. It's not like St. Patrick's Day, or Caribbean Pride Day, or the Feast of St. Anthony, which are ethnic holidays that don't refer to anything historical apart from where your ancestors came from. It's not like Juneteenth, which celebrates the Emancipation Proclamation that freed the black African slaves. And it's surely not like Veterans Day or Memorial Day, which celebrate our armed forces and those who have served the country. It's a holiday that belongs to another country. As far as I can tell, the only excuse it has for being "celebrated" in America is to sell beer so apathetic you have to add citrus juice to it to make it palatable, tequila (which if aged properly is quite good), pseudio-Mexican cuisine dinner specials at chain restaurants, and give irresponsible college kids yet another excuse to get drunk midweek. It has no connection whatever to the history of the United States of America.

05-07-2008, 06:05 PM	#3
Mad Hatter Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Connecticut Posts: 780	It sounds like the Mexican kids were trying to stir things up with the flag bit, so good for the teacher..

05-07-2008, 06:27 PM	#6
patrick70 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 317	Notice how quick the aclu jumped on that.

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tlarkin Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449 Blog Entries: 2	Well, there is nothing saying that the kid couldn't have the flag and there is certainly nothing illegal about it, and I suppose that refusing someone to own a flag of another country could be against someone's civil liberties. I am born and raised American, but I also have an Ireland flag because that is where my family (my name) originally came from. If someone threw my flag in the trash I'd be pissed off too.

05-07-2008, 07:45 PM	#13
Windwalker Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 6,097	Tlarkin, I agree. If Americans students were in Mexico celebrating an American Holiday and some Mexican Official threw the American Flag in the trash we Americans would be highly p---ed off. As long as the flag wasn't illegally flown it should be treated with the same respect as we would want for our flag. __________________ America: Love it and protect it or leave it In God I Trust

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tlarkin Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449 Blog Entries: 2	My friend is Vietnamese and he came to the US when he was like 1 or 2 years old. His father got his citizenship and his mother opted not to so he was not grandfathered in. If both his parents had gotten their citizenship then he would have gotten his. There is an exam you must pass, plus the cost is nearly $1,000 dollars. He just got his (he is like 25 or so) a few months ago because I was yelling at him to quit spending money on iPhones and xboxes and to go get his citizenship. He got his for around $450ish dollars and he told me that the price just went up to just under $1,000 and he was lucky to get his done when he did (several months ago) because he got it done right before the hike in price. Why in the hell would any immigrant who is making poverty level wages want to pay nearly $1,000 to become a citizen? What incentive is there to do so? Stop blaming the immigrants and start blaming retarded ass government policy.

05-07-2008, 08:09 PM	#19
Brother Bob Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Olive Branch, MS. Posts: 5,651 Blog Entries: 3	Well I don't feel like writing a thesis tonight on this topic. Not only that, Texas-T would get on to me for paragraphs and spelling! LOL!