Ron AKA: Sir; I shoot with a Ziess 4.5x14x50 and it just isn't the same for me.
What happens I jack the scope up to see my intended hit; once spotted I jack the scope back to 4.5 to keep the movement down.
Once spotted I would like to not change a thing by using a totally different eye.
I originally thought the same as you. Any additional movement; once I have the "fix" just exacerbates the aggravation of settling in.
I do appreciate your thoughts; Craig
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LiveToShoot; Romey, Fellows, Yesterday I tried a "Bushnell" Sentry 18-36x50. After about 3-5 minuets 'head ache' not good. Tried it up and down the scale. Found it best at about 30 percent.
Found ocular distortion [heat wavering] at 36.
Tried one of them "Hand Held" Leoupold 12-20 power Head ache quickly followed.
It would be worth a dang for me. Shake
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Most of the time I'll be shooting at 100 yards, and occasionally at 200 yards. When those distances work out well for accuracy, I'd like to shoot at 300 yards.
On the rifle that I'll shoot the most, and others a friend will shoot, there is a Leupold VX-II 4-12x40 scope atop.
A scope to potentially see bullet holes out to 200, not sure about 300, is the Weaver T-36. Not too badly priced.
I have the Wind River that I purchased while in college. I am pretty happy with it. I have a hard time looking at groups past 300yds but when glassing the hills for game it does a pretty good job.
BearBasinOutfitters also has some pretty good deals on optics. I have purchased three scopes and my spotting scope from them.
I went out yesterday to do a bit of shooting, close range shots. The target was a hardhat, 12" lid, and several clays at 70 yards. I was trying out a new rest to see how it would work for me.
Well, the .44 lever gun made contact too easily. The .44 pistol, with 4" barrel, made contact after a couple of shots. Then, the XD45 ACP, 4" barrel, made contact. I was reminded of the value of a rest.
I went off on the shoot without a 9 volt battery, so I didn't get an opportunity to try out the Chrony. Maybe we'll be able to get a battery today and head back out for a shoot...so I can see how these loads are performing.
Thereafter...I hope to have narrowed down the spotting scope choice and have one to take along for some further out shots.
LiveToShoot: That looks like it. Deep in the "Jarheads" words 7122 and I did 2+2 thinking
I intend to research it more. Aggravating that I started out with a budget in mind
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sorry to cut in guys but I need a little help as well and Livetoshoot refered me to this thread. what do yall think about the BarskaŽ 25 - 75x75 mm Spotting Scope? I found it for $80 online and it comes with a soft carry case and a tripod. it also has a moveable front piece to help reduce glare but gather more light. I want something to be able to see my targets for grouping sizes out to 500yds or so. Is Barska a good quality brand? I don't know anything about spotting scopes except for the fact that I need one.
Thanks guys and gals,
Chris.
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Cremley,
If you'll take a few minutes and read back through posts in this thread, you'll see several references to places where you can learn about what makes up a quality spotting scope and what goes into a cheaper one...
Of course, budget is the key factor, and I've relearned that you do get what you pay for...
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O.K. I have looked through this thread and all of the links that you have posted. For what I want to do, I think this is the spotting scope for me even though it is on the cheap side. I read a few reviews on a barska similar to this and most of them were 4 or 5 out of 5 star ratings. I know It will not be the best one but I just need to see small holes on a target probably no more than 2-300yds away. past that, I will be shooting at steel plates with my mosin. Thanks for posting all of the info. I was just wondering if anyone had this spotting scope and if they liked it or didn't.
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cremley: ''LiveToShoot"
My issue with spotting scopes goes beyond price at the moment.
1. I have ?messed? around with ""Names"" headache ensued almost immediately [I as a rule don't get headaches} 4-5 in my life
2. quality isn't at this level monetary related [appears advertisement related}
3. any and all that ''we'' have talked about [I've researched on the internet and at stores where available]
4. too aggravating to use; {hand-held]
5. field of view. Some offer good and others;; much to tight at 200+ yds
6. thought about binoculars and screw the spotting scope. [back to square 1}
I know I want something; that I can see with; that doesn't cause headace; and I can make some sense of.
We found a mirrored refractory that is outstanding in all phases. It is too and I underscore TOO sensitive for Shooters and hunters. dadgumit.
Being to complicated.
Now I do hope I/we haven't ran folks off wanting to help and I'm being to anal.
This exercise is interesting, with frustration, aggravations; mostly because; for me; I may not know enough to really know what I should be looking for.
I may be trying to find something thats not been built
Romey had a good plan. It didn't work for me. A few others have their pets; and I tried.
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Neophyte, what scope has a 100mm exit pupil? 8mm is more like it. Maybe the objective is 100mm.
Almost any scope will show .30 cal holes at 100 yards. It takes a really good scope to show .22 cal holes at 200 yards. It takes a really, really good scope to show anything at 300 yards. The "reallys" translate into $$.
Beyond 300 yards, think "spotter disks." Or "shoot-n-see" targets.
Stay away from Winchester scopes. They are pure junk.
If you are not spending $600-$700, forget about .22 holes at 200. Think "Kowa."
Aperture is not everything. There are some really nice 90mm astro scopes that are useless as target scopes. (I have one.) The high light levels and low contrast involved in seeing a black hole on black target in direct sun make internal baffling and ED glass very valuable. Unfortunately, these things are also expensive..................
Take a look through a Kowa or a Swarovski, and you will be convinced to start saving your pennies for one.
Please note, this is from the perspective of someone with 59-year-old eyes. My pupil diameter is down to about 4mm. If you are 30 years old, and still have a 7mm pupil diameter, you will see more than I do. That is why my old 60mm B&L just doesn't hack it (for me) any more.
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