Army Needs New Bullets?

Dookiebutt · 05-29-2008, 04:49 PM

I know some of you will find this interesting . . . .

Chief of staff: Army reviewing complaints over bullets - Yahoo! News

Mad Hatter · 05-29-2008, 05:33 PM

Thats been going on for a long time. Over penetration, clean small holes.... end result, multiple rounds needed for a quick take down.. .. I would not want to be on the other end of any of them.. Alot of vets still like the old reliable .308

troy2000 · 05-29-2008, 05:34 PM

Looks like the same argument that's been going for a while. Myself, I'd come down on the side of knock-down power every time...

rondog · 05-29-2008, 06:04 PM

How many threads are there running about this now?

samuel · 05-29-2008, 06:23 PM

This is something everyone above the rank of captain/leiutenant commander knows.Every hunter knows that a good penetrating round is often not a good game stopper.But hunters too,often try to use a long range bullet that penetrates but doesnt open a good wound channel. sam.

jimkim · 05-29-2008, 08:56 PM

You would have thought they learned their lesson in the Philippines.

FS00008 · 05-29-2008, 08:59 PM

Meh... Personally I say issue every grunt an M14 and a street sweeper and be done with it. No problems with take down power there.

SKS NOOB · 05-29-2008, 09:37 PM

There has been an X-rifle, there is also one available to the public, that shoots .45ACP bullets. The military/police version can be fully automatic where the "retail" one is semi-auto. It's called the Kris. I saw it at a gun show about a few months ago and though I didnt get to shoot it the comments were that it was ugly but had almost NO recoil because of the auto loading system it had.

Rave · 05-30-2008, 11:28 AM

I think the Russians have a good idea with their tumbling,weight shifting bullet,how ever,it's hard to argue with a .308!.

05-29-2008, 04:49 PM	#1
Dookiebutt Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: America's North Coast Posts: 1,303	Army Needs New Bullets? I know some of you will find this interesting . . . . Chief of staff: Army reviewing complaints over bullets - Yahoo! News

05-29-2008, 05:34 PM	#3
troy2000 Resident Armed Liberal Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern California Posts: 10,014 Images: 9	Looks like the same argument that's been going for a while. Myself, I'd come down on the side of knock-down power every time... __________________ I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting you really believe what you just said. WF Buckley, Jr

05-29-2008, 06:04 PM	#4
rondog Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Parker, CO Posts: 1,564	How many threads are there running about this now? __________________ What she doesn't know about, doesn't piss her off.....

05-29-2008, 08:56 PM	#6
jimkim Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Near the Little Ocmulgee river in GA Posts: 2,288 Blog Entries: 15	You would have thought they learned their lesson in the Philippines. __________________ "Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum."

05-30-2008, 11:28 AM	#9
Rave Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 7,047	I think the Russians have a good idea with their tumbling,weight shifting bullet,how ever,it's hard to argue with a .308!. __________________ USAF '62-'66 .

05-29-2008, 05:33 PM	#2
Mad Hatter Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Connecticut Posts: 712	Thats been going on for a long time. Over penetration, clean small holes.... end result, multiple rounds needed for a quick take down.. .. I would not want to be on the other end of any of them.. Alot of vets still like the old reliable .308

05-29-2008, 06:23 PM	#5
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,184	This is something everyone above the rank of captain/leiutenant commander knows.Every hunter knows that a good penetrating round is often not a good game stopper.But hunters too,often try to use a long range bullet that penetrates but doesnt open a good wound channel. sam.

05-29-2008, 08:59 PM	#7
FS00008 Сергей Иванович Мосин Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: California Posts: 1,080 Blog Entries: 1	Meh... Personally I say issue every grunt an M14 and a street sweeper and be done with it. No problems with take down power there.

05-29-2008, 09:37 PM	#8
SKS NOOB Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Minnesotah Posts: 691	There has been an X-rifle, there is also one available to the public, that shoots .45ACP bullets. The military/police version can be fully automatic where the "retail" one is semi-auto. It's called the Kris. I saw it at a gun show about a few months ago and though I didnt get to shoot it the comments were that it was ugly but had almost NO recoil because of the auto loading system it had.