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Old 06-05-2008, 08:53 PM   #1
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Getting ripped off while at work

Folks here this spring were coming home to cold homes, found they had there heating oil robbed while they were at work!
Ive hear my neighbor was setting a couple 330 connbear traps out by the shop, another said they was setting up a game cammera in the back yard where the fuel tank sits. we dont have any problems with scrapmetal thieves here as its not economicly feasable to ship it out (barge or airplane)
Siphoning gas is a major problem here too.
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Old 06-05-2008, 09:12 PM   #2
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Old 06-05-2008, 10:12 PM   #3
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I agree with the traps. POSTED warnings against trespassing and warnings of possible bodily harm will remove liability from teh homeowner (depending on Alaskan law).
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Old 06-05-2008, 10:23 PM   #4
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Not good

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Old 06-05-2008, 10:24 PM   #5
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This is Alaska...WE TRAP VARMITS !!!
It's not our fault if a guy gets caught in a trapline...He shouldnt have been there to begin with...!!!
Our Judges aren't like the lower 48 ...
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Old 06-05-2008, 10:41 PM   #6
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Use the game camera and take care of business as they walk home from the bar. Traps get kids and pets.
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Old 06-05-2008, 10:43 PM   #7
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light him up it's not your fault if the dump fool caught fire while stealing oil or gas. he shouldn't have had a cig or lighter while messing with fuel.
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Old 06-05-2008, 11:08 PM   #8
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get a bunch of mean dogs

if they cant get out of their truck without getting mauled .
they cant steal gas.
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Old 06-06-2008, 01:05 AM   #9
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and kids are scared of dogs so they won't go in the yard either!!!
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Old 06-06-2008, 01:32 AM   #10
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REX how many gallons of heating oil does the tanks hold ? And seeing how you live in Alaska whats the population of your town ?
I'm just curious ?

Maybe a simple motion light will stop the theft's. And adapt a buzzer or alarm to it to come on when the light does.
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Edit: I wonder if you could hook a wire to a motion detector light and run it to the tank and shock the chit out of'em ?

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Old 06-06-2008, 01:51 AM   #11
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Thats it. Just hook up a time delay to a flame thrower. Then aim it at the general area the perp will be when they are stealing oil. They start to siphon the oil then they are hit by the flame thrower. Then WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH. Game over.
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Old 06-06-2008, 02:08 AM   #12
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Are there even any children around you Rex?
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Old 06-06-2008, 03:18 PM   #13
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I read something once about lawn sprinklers connected to a motion detector, to deter animals from a garden I think it was.
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Old 06-06-2008, 05:08 PM   #14
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Elder in Hardware store buying padlock to replace cut one said her tank was drained dry 2 days after getting the Fuel Voucher for 100 gal (Chavez is popular here) the cut off the lock as the tank was a 2 pipe return type, Mean dogs have to be fed and they bite kid's + have to shovel Dog doo year round
I guess to fence the tank & pipeing to make harder to steal
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Old 06-08-2008, 03:53 PM   #15
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Yeah, the traps can get you in alot of trouble. There is a story in my family about one of my second cousins. Someone kept coming onto his property and stealing all kinds of expensive junk from his shed way in the back of his property and he filed all kinds of reports with the police but they never did anything. So he sets a crossbow tripwire (Do not ask me the technical details) near the front of the shed, and about a day later he goes to his shed and he sees his 15 year old neighbor pinned to the wall of the shed with a bolt through his shoulder almost dead from blood loss. Well, the mother sued and he got a few years in jail for assault, not to mention a boatload of money taken away for emotional damage to the boy. The boy walked home free because they had no sufficient evidence to back up my cousins claim the boy was actually stealing from the shed, not just walking in front. However, he was tresspassing, but they had a stupid judge and a good lawyer.
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Old 06-08-2008, 04:29 PM   #16
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Rex- They have to be doing something with the oil! A little detective work by the VPO/Troopers should show who's gaining oil without buying any, right?
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Old 06-08-2008, 05:11 PM   #17
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Stake it out with a few good buddies, a thick blanket and some pieces of rubber hose. Grab the perp, and introduce him to the good old-fashioned "Blanket Party". I bet he won't be back.....

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Old 06-08-2008, 07:03 PM   #18
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This is going to only get worse as the price of gas/fuel continues to climb. I had gas siphoned from my company truck more than once so I installed a locking gas cap to keep the honest people honest and slow down the thieves. I have also put one on my personal vehicles as well. Chances are it's possibly someone that knows the victim. It could even be the service man that filled the tank. My sister inlaws friend had their house broken into on christmas eve and the house was litterly cleaned out. They had just moved into the home less than a month prior. The police found the persons who broke in (the loan officer).
Hopefully they will catch the people doing it.
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Old 06-08-2008, 09:14 PM   #19
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heck, a locking gas cap will hardly keep the theives away, they'll just go straight for your gas line
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Old 06-09-2008, 03:38 PM   #20
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Kotzebue's population is approx 2900 more or less, we have our share of drunken weenies that live on the government dole, From April thru August we pretty much can read a newspaper out side at night due to the sunlight, the kids on my block would be a test as they pretty much are every where, neighbor otto has 4, I have 3,neighbor andy has 2, neighbor steve has 3, + the kids from up the street amounts to 11
Gas is cheaper if you take 55 gal drums to the fuel depot ($13 cheaper) problem is securing them, we have 9 months of the year we run snowmobiles.
The theives useally use a pipe wrench to, open mud-leg traps on the fuel lines,
Homes with boilers use 1 or 2 line fuel systems, Homes with Monitor's or Toyo's useally have gravity fed systems, the gravity fed systems are hard to keep secured
I recomend game camera's, and wire in the motion sensor light (lamp removed) to a indoor buzzer or light to allert you of intruders, problem is the loose dogs keep setting it off, I took to pepering them with the Red Rider (maybe they will learn to stay out)
Ive had some pretty good pictures of my kid's running thru the yard. neighbor that had the fuel ripped had a 250gal oval tank inside her chain link fenced yard along the back yard the city easement is a prime avinue for thieves to prowel un-observed.
The best bet keeping the fuel tank out in the open is pretty good deterrant as passer-by would notice, Night in winter is best to move un-observed, can use a kid's sled to haul the gas-cans, we have a few who live in wood-heated homes with a oil stove used as secondary heat, they scrounge pallets to burn from the airport freight outfits. The guy's who own aircraft have found the gas-caps thrown on the ground beside the aircraft after weekend's when snowmobilers siphon gas from the wing tanks, it will get worse as the price is forcasted to jump a $1.30 when the first barge hits town, then even more as the second & third come to port.
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