For the money they're asking for both a stripped $125 and complete lower $200, you can get a real good, aluminum stripped lower. A complete might be near the $200, but the odds are that more than likely a bit more though. But you know the aluminum ones are proven to hold up and withstand the pressures, these, I haven't a clue. Who knows, maybe they do/will?
Personally, I'd rather the composite AR lowers be out for a while and prove they'll hold up. Then, I'm not sure, maybe they have been out for a while and have proven to hold up? But, you'll still have metal moving parts inside it and I'm not sure that over time they wouldn't wear out the composite. I could be wrong? But to me it's no different then a motor with aluminum heads and cast iron block. Over time something ends up screwing up, in the case of the motor, the heads generally warped and/or leaked due to the different metals heating and cooling at different temps. Thus the reason they found a fix or went back to either all aluminum or all cast.
With a composite, I personally couldn't tell you if the metal parts would wear out the composite material? Sure Glocks and the others that are now composite, that they mention don't seem to wear out. One main point, those are all handguns they mention, not rifles.
I could also be totally wrong. But I think if you have the money to buy a composite, you then have the money for a proven aluminum lower.
A point to note, they're offering a lifetime replacement warranty if it ever breaks or wears out under "NORMAL USE" for only a $30+shipping fee. And since it is the serial #'d part, you'll then have to go through an FFL and that would be an additional cost, unless you're one yourself?
"CAV-15 MKII Receivers have a life time warranty. If your receiver ever breaks in the course of normal use we will replace it for free. If your receiver ever breaks through misuse, neglect, or by accident (fire, car wreck, etc.) we will replace it for $30.00 plus shipping." This tends to make me wonder:
1.They know they're going to wear out or break.
2.They've had them wear out and/or break already.
3.You'll have to prove, if or rather when (my opinion) it does wear out or break that it was due to this "NORMAL USE".
Also, another thing I'd point out, they say it must be assembled by them or a qualified gun smith, if you get a/the stripped lower.
"Sripped CAV-15 lowers must be assembled by certified CAV-15 armorer or a qualified gun smith."
So that tells me if you don't, it may void this so-called "lifetime warranty"? Also, with the extra cost of having to have a gunsmith do this, you may as well just buy/get the complete lower for $200.
If I were you, I'd pass. But, it is your money and totally up to you.
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Last edited by GlockMeister; 06-09-2008 at 01:44 AM.
They are not bad. They save a lot of weight over a conventional aluminum lower. However I hate the grip (needs a hogue to slip pver in order to feel right). Also, don't love the fact that you are stuck with the fixed stock. However I do like that it is shorter than an A2 fixed stock.
you can ship any part or whole gun off and have it shipped right back to your address without having a ffl get involved. the gun is yours already and it isn't a new gun being bought it's being sent out for repairs. i sent my highpoint out like that and they shipped it right back to my house when the work was done. i did have to go to my local gun store and get a old box that would fit it they gave me that for free.lol
most of the fast moving parts that could wear out are in the upper not the lower reciever. the lower reciever on really works the trugger and mag well and none of them two are really fast movin parts.
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Originally Posted by GlockMeister
For the money they're asking for both a stripped $125 and complete lower $200, you can get a real good, aluminum stripped lower. A complete might be near the $200, but the odds are that more than likely a bit more though. But you know the aluminum ones are proven to hold up and withstand the pressures, these, I haven't a clue. Who knows, maybe they do/will?
Personally, I'd rather the composite AR lowers be out for a while and prove they'll hold up. Then, I'm not sure, maybe they have been out for a while and have proven to hold up? But, you'll still have metal moving parts inside it and I'm not sure that over time they wouldn't wear out the composite. I could be wrong? But to me it's no different then a motor with aluminum heads and cast iron block. Over time something ends up screwing up, in the case of the motor, the heads generally warped and/or leaked due to the different metals heating and cooling at different temps. Thus the reason they found a fix or went back to either all aluminum or all cast.
With a composite, I personally couldn't tell you if the metal parts would wear out the composite material? Sure Glocks and the others that are now composite, that they mention don't seem to wear out. One main point, those are all handguns they mention, not rifles.
I could also be totally wrong. But I think if you have the money to buy a composite, you then have the money for a proven aluminum lower.
A point to note, they're offering a lifetime replacement warranty if it ever breaks or wears out under "NORMAL USE" for only a $30+shipping fee. And since it is the serial #'d part, you'll then have to go through an FFL and that would be an additional cost, unless you're one yourself?
"CAV-15 MKII Receivers have a life time warranty. If your receiver ever breaks in the course of normal use we will replace it for free. If your receiver ever breaks through misuse, neglect, or by accident (fire, car wreck, etc.) we will replace it for $30.00 plus shipping." This tends to make me wonder:
1.They know they're going to wear out or break.
2.They've had them wear out and/or break already.
3.You'll have to prove, if or rather when (my opinion) it does wear out or break that it was due to this "NORMAL USE".
Also, another thing I'd point out, they say it must be assembled by them or a qualified gun smith, if you get a/the stripped lower.
"Sripped CAV-15 lowers must be assembled by certified CAV-15 armorer or a qualified gun smith."
So that tells me if you don't, it may void this so-called "lifetime warranty"? Also, with the extra cost of having to have a gunsmith do this, you may as well just buy/get the complete lower for $200.
If I were you, I'd pass. But, it is your money and totally up to you.
