Dogs are amazing..

oneastrix · 09-01-2002, 11:41 PM

I just ran outside to take the dog out and set the trash out in the trash bin at the curb. All of a sudden my Boxer would not move. Every hair on her body stood up so to speak. I looked into the night but couldn't see anything out of the ordinary. Tried to drag her by the choke collar, but she wouldn't budge

I managed to toss the trash into the bin. It made some noise. Then I heard it, "SSSSSSSSSS!" About ten feet in front of me was a rattlebug warming itself up on the still hot TX asphault. It went like heck in the other direction after I backed away.

It's just amazing how dogs are so much more keen to things than we are....

tommy · 09-02-2002, 12:32 AM

yea i got a golden retriever and she will find anything you want as long as you give her a scent to follow.

wes · 09-02-2002, 01:27 AM

I got a German shepherd that can HEAR treats.

Klaus · 09-02-2002, 05:08 AM

What the heck is a rattlebug?

tommy · 09-02-2002, 12:21 PM

i would like to give anyone out there this warning . last night me and my wife gave our cats a bath and put some of those seargents flee drops on there back. well that was a big misstake. we now have one cat that is having siezures. and the other two have the shakes really bad. we might have to put one down he is siezing really bad.the other two are doin fine though. they must have had a really bad reaction to it. we stayed up all night with the worst one . he is doin better than last night but not a whole lot better. there is nothing worst than watching you'r pet go thuogh this .don't get me wronge it is not the products fault . it is just a reaction to it.take my advice just stick to giving them a bath. the droppes are not worth it .we feel really bad cause we put it on them. but how were we to know this would happen. my dog is doin fine . and the other two cats are also doin fine .but three out of six of my pets are reacting to it. just use this stuff with caution (PLEASE).

09-02-2002, 12:38 PM

I think he meant Rattlesnake..Herr Klaus

Klaus · 09-02-2002, 01:03 PM

Tommy, I have used the flea drops a lot. Are you SURE you did not give them DOG flea drops? The dog drops are poisonous to cats and the boxes are clearly labeled for dogs only and warn they are poisonous.

PAPA G · 09-02-2002, 02:13 PM

another way to get rid of fleas on a cat is a strong acid bath guarranteed to remove fleas!!!!

Snakebite · 09-02-2002, 05:02 PM

This is why you dont want to get bit. Thats my hand before surgery. I lost both of those fingers at the knuckle. I still hold the record for the amount of anti-venin given.

Oxford · 09-02-2002, 05:20 PM

D**n...that picture really looks painful. I'm sorry that you lost your fingers.

Now we know where your handle came from. That's an experience we could all do without. I suppose you had to switch hands for doing most things, including shooting. Is that correct?
Oxford

tommy · 09-02-2002, 05:52 PM

yes it was for cats . we think he was just too small he is over 5 months old but he is real small. the others are doin fine now i think it was the fleas running for there life that was bothering them. but little moonie he is iether to small for the dose are he just had a real bad reaction to it.we used to buy the drops at the vets office to put on them and this never happend . maybe he licked some off his fur ?i don't know . just hope he pulls through it ok .

tommy · 09-02-2002, 05:53 PM

man that snake bite sure looked bad hope you killed the sucker .:assult: :assult:

oneastrix · 09-02-2002, 05:58 PM

Yeah Klaus, my term for Rattlesnake is "rattlebug..."

Snakebite · 09-02-2002, 06:08 PM

Oxford
You are right about being painful. That was the worst pain I've ever experienced and it wasnt just localized in my hand. The venom moved throughout my body and most all of my internal organs hurt to. Especially my lungs. It took a looong time for complete recovery.
Its funny that I'm still right handed. My doctor told me I would be left handed. I can do everything I used to do and can actually do a few things better! I guess five fingers get in the way sometimes. One thing that is a little more difficult for me is shooting pistol. I can still do it OK, but not as fast...especially single action. Rifles are no problem.
This happened in 1988 while 4-wheeling. I ran over a snake and stopped to look at it. As I walked up from behind the snake sort of flipped around and latched on to both fingers and just held on. I couldnt get that sucker off my fingers for nothing. I pulled and yanked as he pumped all his venom in. Thank goodness I had my nephew with me because I would have never made it into town. I started losing conciousness in just a few minutes. I woke up days later in ICU. The fingers started turning black in about a day. They even smelled like rotten meat. They were amputated 8 days after being bitten.
If anyone has a question about a snake bite, I'm the one to ask!

Snakebite · 09-02-2002, 06:10 PM

I forgot. The snake was killed.

oneastrix · 09-02-2002, 06:15 PM

Are all rattlebug bites that bad? I've heard that the younger they are, the more potent they are; but the older they are, the harder they hit ya........ Is any of that true?

Snakebite · 09-02-2002, 06:27 PM

Most bites arent this bad. Most are called "dry bites" because the snake will just bite to get your attention without injecting much, if any venom.
Its not true that the little ones are more potent. They are exactly the same but a small snake hasnt learned how to regulate the amount of venom he injects. The larger snakes have much larger venom sac than a small one and if they decide to empty it into you, well, you saw what will happen.

Oxford · 09-02-2002, 06:32 PM

rtlesnkesbite:

Now I know why I don't like snakes! Don't care what variety they are...if I'm able, I'll kill them ASAP.

About a year ago I spent a weekend riding a sand rail at the dunes in NW Oklahoma at a state park called Little Sahara State Park near Waynoka. People converge there annually for a rattlesnake hunt.

Glad I didn't confront one when I wrecked and was lying there on the sand.

Oxford
:nod:

Klaus · 09-02-2002, 06:39 PM

necrosis. It was rotting meat ...

Oxford · 09-02-2002, 08:25 PM

Klaus: Several years ago I had the unpleasant task one day of working in an environment where a teacher had left either a dead cat or dog in enbalming fluid inside of a refrigerator of the high school science room laboratory.

My department was responsible for managing the remodeling of that school and all of the electrical power had to be turned off for several days. Unfortunately, that's when the smell started reeking out of the science room doors and I had the unpleasant task of loading it into a "body bag", plus spending several hours in the lab inventorying all of the unneeded chemicals which were scheduled for disposal.

We gave up on getting the odor out of the refrigerator because it had saturated the insulation and would have been nearly impossible to correct.

Actually, the science teachers had been told beforehand that all electrical power would be off for part of the summer and to take proper precautions.

I'll never forget that smell. !@@#$#%^&# it was bad!

09-01-2002, 11:41 PM	#1
oneastrix Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 5,213	Dogs are amazing.. I just ran outside to take the dog out and set the trash out in the trash bin at the curb. All of a sudden my Boxer would not move. Every hair on her body stood up so to speak. I looked into the night but couldn't see anything out of the ordinary. Tried to drag her by the choke collar, but she wouldn't budge I managed to toss the trash into the bin. It made some noise. Then I heard it, "SSSSSSSSSS!" About ten feet in front of me was a rattlebug warming itself up on the still hot TX asphault. It went like heck in the other direction after I backed away. It's just amazing how dogs are so much more keen to things than we are.... __________________ There's no one more thankful to sit at the table, than the one who best remembers hunger's pain.

09-02-2002, 05:08 AM	#4
Klaus Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cypress, Texas Posts: 2,382	What the heck is a rattlebug? __________________ "Gee, Wally, Eddie Haskel's mom puts out!"

09-02-2002, 12:21 PM	#5
tommy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: schriever la Posts: 4,146 Images: 6	FLEA DROPS i would like to give anyone out there this warning . last night me and my wife gave our cats a bath and put some of those seargents flee drops on there back. well that was a big misstake. we now have one cat that is having siezures. and the other two have the shakes really bad. we might have to put one down he is siezing really bad.the other two are doin fine though. they must have had a really bad reaction to it. we stayed up all night with the worst one . he is doin better than last night but not a whole lot better. there is nothing worst than watching you'r pet go thuogh this .don't get me wronge it is not the products fault . it is just a reaction to it.take my advice just stick to giving them a bath. the droppes are not worth it .we feel really bad cause we put it on them. but how were we to know this would happen. my dog is doin fine . and the other two cats are also doin fine .but three out of six of my pets are reacting to it. just use this stuff with caution (PLEASE).

09-02-2002, 01:03 PM	#7
Klaus Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cypress, Texas Posts: 2,382	Tommy, I have used the flea drops a lot. Are you SURE you did not give them DOG flea drops? The dog drops are poisonous to cats and the boxes are clearly labeled for dogs only and warn they are poisonous. __________________ "Gee, Wally, Eddie Haskel's mom puts out!"

09-02-2002, 05:02 PM	#9
Snakebite Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tucson, Mexico Posts: 1,844	snake bite This is why you dont want to get bit. Thats my hand before surgery. I lost both of those fingers at the knuckle. I still hold the record for the amount of anti-venin given.

09-02-2002, 12:32 AM	#2
tommy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: schriever la Posts: 4,146 Images: 6	yea i got a golden retriever and she will find anything you want as long as you give her a scent to follow.

09-02-2002, 01:27 AM	#3
wes Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Loveland Co Posts: 1,905	I got a German shepherd that can HEAR treats.

09-02-2002, 12:38 PM	#6
Logansdad Guest Posts: n/a	I think he meant Rattlesnake..Herr Klaus

09-02-2002, 02:13 PM	#8
PAPA G Guest Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somerset, kentucky Posts: 11	another way to get rid of fleas on a cat is a strong acid bath guarranteed to remove fleas!!!!

09-02-2002, 05:20 PM	#10
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 13,094 Blog Entries: 4	Dn...that picture really looks painful. I'm sorry that you lost your fingers. Now we know where your handle came from. That's an experience we could all do without. I suppose you had to switch hands for doing most things, including shooting. Is that correct? Oxford __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".**

09-02-2002, 05:52 PM	#11
tommy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: schriever la Posts: 4,146 Images: 6	yes it was for cats . we think he was just too small he is over 5 months old but he is real small. the others are doin fine now i think it was the fleas running for there life that was bothering them. but little moonie he is iether to small for the dose are he just had a real bad reaction to it.we used to buy the drops at the vets office to put on them and this never happend . maybe he licked some off his fur ?i don't know . just hope he pulls through it ok .

09-02-2002, 05:53 PM	#12
tommy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: schriever la Posts: 4,146 Images: 6	man that snake bite sure looked bad hope you killed the sucker .:assult: :assult:

09-02-2002, 05:58 PM	#13
oneastrix Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 5,213	Yeah Klaus, my term for Rattlesnake is "rattlebug..." __________________ There's no one more thankful to sit at the table, than the one who best remembers hunger's pain.

09-02-2002, 06:08 PM	#14
Snakebite Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tucson, Mexico Posts: 1,844	Oxford You are right about being painful. That was the worst pain I've ever experienced and it wasnt just localized in my hand. The venom moved throughout my body and most all of my internal organs hurt to. Especially my lungs. It took a looong time for complete recovery. Its funny that I'm still right handed. My doctor told me I would be left handed. I can do everything I used to do and can actually do a few things better! I guess five fingers get in the way sometimes. One thing that is a little more difficult for me is shooting pistol. I can still do it OK, but not as fast...especially single action. Rifles are no problem. This happened in 1988 while 4-wheeling. I ran over a snake and stopped to look at it. As I walked up from behind the snake sort of flipped around and latched on to both fingers and just held on. I couldnt get that sucker off my fingers for nothing. I pulled and yanked as he pumped all his venom in. Thank goodness I had my nephew with me because I would have never made it into town. I started losing conciousness in just a few minutes. I woke up days later in ICU. The fingers started turning black in about a day. They even smelled like rotten meat. They were amputated 8 days after being bitten. If anyone has a question about a snake bite, I'm the one to ask!

09-02-2002, 06:10 PM	#15
Snakebite Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tucson, Mexico Posts: 1,844	I forgot. The snake was killed.

09-02-2002, 06:15 PM	#16
oneastrix Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 5,213	Are all rattlebug bites that bad? I've heard that the younger they are, the more potent they are; but the older they are, the harder they hit ya........ Is any of that true? __________________ There's no one more thankful to sit at the table, than the one who best remembers hunger's pain.

09-02-2002, 06:27 PM	#17
Snakebite Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tucson, Mexico Posts: 1,844	Most bites arent this bad. Most are called "dry bites" because the snake will just bite to get your attention without injecting much, if any venom. Its not true that the little ones are more potent. They are exactly the same but a small snake hasnt learned how to regulate the amount of venom he injects. The larger snakes have much larger venom sac than a small one and if they decide to empty it into you, well, you saw what will happen.

09-02-2002, 06:32 PM	#18
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 13,094 Blog Entries: 4	Those rattlers are for real! rtlesnkesbite: Now I know why I don't like snakes! Don't care what variety they are...if I'm able, I'll kill them ASAP. About a year ago I spent a weekend riding a sand rail at the dunes in NW Oklahoma at a state park called Little Sahara State Park near Waynoka. People converge there annually for a rattlesnake hunt. Glad I didn't confront one when I wrecked and was lying there on the sand. Oxford :nod: __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right". Last edited by Oxford; 09-02-2002 at 09:52 PM.

09-02-2002, 06:39 PM	#19
Klaus Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cypress, Texas Posts: 2,382	necrosis. It was rotting meat ... __________________ "Gee, Wally, Eddie Haskel's mom puts out!"

09-02-2002, 08:25 PM	#20
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 13,094 Blog Entries: 4	Klaus: Several years ago I had the unpleasant task one day of working in an environment where a teacher had left either a dead cat or dog in enbalming fluid inside of a refrigerator of the high school science room laboratory. My department was responsible for managing the remodeling of that school and all of the electrical power had to be turned off for several days. Unfortunately, that's when the smell started reeking out of the science room doors and I had the unpleasant task of loading it into a "body bag", plus spending several hours in the lab inventorying all of the unneeded chemicals which were scheduled for disposal. We gave up on getting the odor out of the refrigerator because it had saturated the insulation and would have been nearly impossible to correct. Actually, the science teachers had been told beforehand that all electrical power would be off for part of the summer and to take proper precautions. I'll never forget that smell. !@@#$#%^&# it was bad! __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".