No-knock raid on a guy's house. The LEOs in question umm...frankly if you reads the article they seem totally incompetent, not the folks you want doing this sort of thing.
"But before the jury began hearing evidence, the trial judge, Justice Guy Cournoyer, ruled the warrant used for the raid was a violation of Parasiris's charter right that protects Canadians against abusive search and seizure. Cournoyer criticized the Laval police because they had no evidence they would find a large quantity of drugs in Parasiris's home. Also, Parasiris was never charged with drug trafficking after the raid."
"Parasiris testified he opened his bedroom door, came face to face with Tessier and fired his revolver when he saw Tessier's hand was pointing towards him.Parasiris fired four shots, striking Tessier three times. The fourth shot struck Const. Stephane Forbes, who was about to open the door to the bedroom of Parasiris's seven-year-old daughter, Stephanie.
When they heard the shots, three officers returned gunfire. Det.-Sgt. Nathalie Allard fired four shots towards Parasiris but struck his wife in the right arm and Tessier in the foot.
Constables Serge Lauzon and Francois Leblanc, the man in charge of the investigation, mistook where the shots were coming from and fired five rounds each towards the bedroom of Parasiris's 15-year-old son, George."
Sounds like the homeowner was the best combatant in the whole mess.
I knew that was going to happen sooner or later. Not in the US this time, but these tactics are used in this country. There seems little reason for what is basically a SWAT-style raid over some alleged drug-runner.
Not that anyone will learn their lesson from this.
What a bunch of Keystone cops. Sounds to me like the guy probably was moving drugs, but I don't see anything that would justify battering down the door and rushing a sleeping family. Why didn't they simply pick him up as he came out the door to go to work, and move into the house then? I'm not going to celebrate because one of them died; he probably had a family too, and I doubt he was planning to kill anyone. But whoever planned that raid should be fired.
It looks to me like the judge's decisions almost guaranteed a 'not guilty' verdict. Maybe he was trying to send a message to the local LEO community...
even if he were guilty, there is no reason for the storm trooper tactics f he's a known violent offender, maybe. but not a family with kids in the house. there are better ways to apprehend a suspect.
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even if he were guilty, there is no reason for the storm trooper tactics f he's a known violent offender, maybe. but not a family with kids in the house. there are better ways to apprehend a suspect.
This, I think, is the biggest issue. It is not difficult for the police to go to where he works, or watch the house until he leaves. They can approach and surround him when he's outside, cuff him, then exercise a search warrant while everyone's either awake or not at home. If they knew he had kids it's even more reprehensible they went in like this.
#5 +1!!! I agree. A little applied "Common Sense" would've done the job and saved a life here.
Methinks the 'leader' of this SNAFU has watched too many Hollyweird cop shows.
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#5 +1!!! I agree. A little applied "Common Sense" would've done the job and saved a life here.
Methinks the 'leader' of this SNAFU has watched too many Hollyweird cop shows.
I think the hollywierd shows are a big part of the problem, plus they get all these para military toys and they feel the need to use them. used to be one of the main differences in this country and the bananna republics that I travel to was the instead of a cop patrolling the neighborhood (here) there was 3-5 military men with sub machine guns standing around on every corner. while not quite that bad here yet, its not far off.
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I was on a Narcotics Raid Team for about 5 years. We always had the first guy to go in, in uniform. The security guys outside were in uniform.
The actual Narcotics Officer were paranoid that the dope would get flushed. Knowing what I know now, if I were running a Raid Team, everyone would be in uniform or have a shirt on with 'Police' in huge lettering. We'd just walk up and knock on the door, explain our purpose and walk in. If the amount of dope is so small that it can be flushed then it's not hardly worth getting a Cop hurt over.
The kick the door in days for a warrant need to be pretty much over. Waco and Ruby Ridge should have ended a lot of that crap.
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seems to be a problem with law enforcement officers all over north america. if you bust through enough doors without knocking, eventually someone is going to shoot you.
Don't get me wrong, I don't want anyone to misunderstand. I do not ever want a Cop to get shot. I do question the tactics taught and the way Departments expect their people to act.
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i prefer they didnt get shot either, but when you go thru someones do unannounced, or even thru the wrong door ( frequently a common problem), its going to happen.
Happened in Atlanta too a while back. 90+ Year old little old lady took out one or two APD Narc. officers who performed the same style entry. They burst in, don't yell anything, and she pops up with her old 12 Gauge coach gun. She was hit over 30 times by return fire after hitting the cops.
Living where she did... they should have expected to get shot and I believe that the survivors were even charged for it. I'll have to look up an article.
Happened in Atlanta too a while back. 90+ Year old little old lady took out one or two APD Narc. officers who performed the same style entry. They burst in, don't yell anything, and she pops up with her old 12 Gauge coach gun. She was hit over 30 times by return fire after hitting the cops.
Living where she did... they should have expected to get shot and I believe that the survivors were even charged for it. I'll have to look up an article.
Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like cops used to have more common sense. I'm a big supporter of LEO's, but to quote Forrest Gump "stupid is as stupid does". If they'd come into my house, I'd do my best to ensure that NONE of them left alive unless someone informed me who they actually were.
I agree that it is probably all that Hollyweird stuff...
Stalebiscuit, Can you try to find an article on it? I can't seem to find a "valid" one (Meaning that the ones I've found on AJC and stuff you've gotta pay for).
I thought it was pretty recent... like within the last two years.
I was on a Narcotics Raid Team for about 5 years. We always had the first guy to go in, in uniform. The security guys outside were in uniform.
The actual Narcotics Officer were paranoid that the dope would get flushed. Knowing what I know now, if I were running a Raid Team, everyone would be in uniform or have a shirt on with 'Police' in huge lettering. We'd just walk up and knock on the door, explain our purpose and walk in. If the amount of dope is so small that it can be flushed then it's not hardly worth getting a Cop hurt over.
The kick the door in days for a warrant need to be pretty much over. Waco and Ruby Ridge should have ended a lot of that crap.
yea, if it's not a major drug ring, that's been known to be violent there's no need to go in no-knock. who cares if they flush a couple baggies, it's safer to knock, this guy admitted that he WAS trafficking, but less than a gram of coke? less than 2 grams of weed? he wasn't doing anything worthy of a no-knock search, he could have ditched it if they knocked, but a cop would also still be alive. and his 15 yr old wouldn't have had bullets flying into this room, these incidents are why most people hate cops so much
and on hitting him in the foot and his wife on the arm? how can 9 cops be that pathetic?
on hitting him in the foot and his wife on the arm? how can 9 cops be that pathetic?
