Security fears over food and fuel crisis...(Coming soon to a neighborhood near you?)

troy2000 · 08-03-2008, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by LiveToShoot

There are a couple of situations where that may be of value, but not as an overall solution/cure for the various situations we face...

...cause it would take too many tires and fuel costs are still way too high.

TXplt · 08-04-2008, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by troy2000

Rufus Rhastus. He hasn't been on for a while. His universal solution was gasoline-soaked tires around people's necks, and a match....

Actually, burning tires can be quite useful (although not usually around people's necks....

). If I'm not mistaken, Spaceship 1 (once clear of the J85 powered mothership), used a combination of powdered rubber from old tires and oxidizer (I believe nitrous) to power its rocket system. Maybe I'm mistaken, but I remember the presentation at OSH a few years back. Pretty wild ride anyhow.

Seabeescotty · 08-04-2008, 10:29 AM

Used tires and gasoline? That's a bit overboard, if you ask me. I didn't pay a lot of attention to thefuel used by Spaceship 1, but that's really something! It would have saved us from a bunch of pollution, in Ca., if they were using old tires for fuel. We had two big tire piles go up in smoke, out there, a few years ago, and it really made a mess of the air quality. One burned for over a month, it seemed, and you could smell burnt rubber, anywhere in the valley.

TXplt · 08-04-2008, 10:37 AM

Yeah, I think it was actually nitrous (or a nitrous derivative) used as the oxidizer with the ground up rubber tires. No real hazmat (although once you lit the candle it was off to the races

. It was amazing to watch the manual control of the "aircraft" as it left the lower atmosphere--at one point it was out of control and must've been a really wild ride. You could see the trim tabs moving as he fought to get it back under control, but I just remember thinking "wow" -- it did accomplish its intended task, though !

Seabeescotty · 08-04-2008, 10:42 AM

Them fellas did get the job done! Yeah, that looked like one wild a$$ ride!

08-04-2008, 10:29 AM	#43
Seabeescotty The ol' Coot Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Jay, Oklahoma, God's country. Posts: 4,567 Images: 18 Blog Entries: 1	Used tires and gasoline? That's a bit overboard, if you ask me. I didn't pay a lot of attention to thefuel used by Spaceship 1, but that's really something! It would have saved us from a bunch of pollution, in Ca., if they were using old tires for fuel. We had two big tire piles go up in smoke, out there, a few years ago, and it really made a mess of the air quality. One burned for over a month, it seemed, and you could smell burnt rubber, anywhere in the valley. __________________ Adapt, improvise, overcome.-Gysgt Highway, Heartbreak Ridge

08-04-2008, 10:37 AM	#44
TXplt Conservative in Exile Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 3,186 Images: 4 Blog Entries: 2	Yeah, I think it was actually nitrous (or a nitrous derivative) used as the oxidizer with the ground up rubber tires. No real hazmat (although once you lit the candle it was off to the races . It was amazing to watch the manual control of the "aircraft" as it left the lower atmosphere--at one point it was out of control and must've been a really wild ride. You could see the trim tabs moving as he fought to get it back under control, but I just remember thinking "wow" -- it did accomplish its intended task, though ! __________________ Old fighter pilots never die.....They just wind up in Texas

08-04-2008, 10:42 AM	#45
Seabeescotty The ol' Coot Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Jay, Oklahoma, God's country. Posts: 4,567 Images: 18 Blog Entries: 1	Them fellas did get the job done! Yeah, that looked like one wild a$$ ride! __________________ Adapt, improvise, overcome.-Gysgt Highway, Heartbreak Ridge