Generation Gap

09-04-2002, 07:47 PM

The sky is not falling. Armageddon is not at hand.

I am a little concerned about the amount of people on this board
that are soothsayers about the end of times.

I have seen complaints about young people, politics, business, religion, morality, and many other subjects. This is called a generation gap. It has been going on for hundreds (if not thousands) of years. Every generation thinks the next generation is responsible for the decline of the nation/religion/etc.
When Elvis swung his hips, adults claimed that the moral declination of society was deplorable. They thought the end or morality and decency was imminent. Almost 50 years later - we still have laws prohibiting oral sex. Child pornography is still illegal. Prostitution is still legal in only one county in the country.

Adults swear that children have no respect. Children swear that adults are "anachronistic". It is human nature.

When legislation started to allow blacks the right to vote, it was thought by many to be the beginning of the end. It didn't hurt the country after all.

32 Years after the military shot colllege students at Kent State - It is still not a police state.

Ruby Ridge, Waco - Still no jack-booted thugs smashing down doors in the middle of the night.

I am not saying that we should turn a blind eye to our government or anything, but it is not nearly as bad as some are trying to make it out to be. I don't believe the !@#$ is going to hit the fan. I don't believe there is going to be a meltdown. Why? Because I believe the world is becoming a better place. Not worse. The standard of living has increased in most countries over the last few decades. The level of education has risen in most countries. The medial care around the world has improved over the last few decades.

In short - Lighten Up!

BattleRifleG3 · 09-04-2002, 08:13 PM

I half agree... I ultimately believe the world will end, that things will in the course of history get worse.
But we ought to presume to understand it all, like trying to name the antichrist or identify the day of the end of the world.

What I'm saddened by is the decrease in gun related discussion. Nowadays when I check the new posts they're almost all in the Gun Room. Nothing wrong with the Gun Room, but let's talk more guns!

By the way, this generation gap... I think I'm on the other side already. I don't think of my parents as anachronistic, just mentally challenged

In fact, some times they seem to modern for me.

wes · 09-04-2002, 11:43 PM

Slowly chipping away at the mountain,no one notices the mountain getting smaller; then,one day it's gone;and no one remembers that once a mountain stood there.

tommy · 09-05-2002, 12:18 AM

hey g3 i hear you on the gun talk now sinse you said something . i noticed that every day . well more than once a day the gun room has a new topic but all the other forums on this sight might go a day maybe a week . hell lokk at the ak forume when was the lats time you seen a new post. all i hear is a bunch of people raging the goverment. don't get me wronge they need ragging out . but lets get back to the guns . i know there are some of you out there that has something to say about a gun . well ! lets hear it . i hope knowone takes this personal caues it is not directed to know one in general. so lets talk gun and politics . how can i say this .( enquiering minds want to know) lol

ps i do like the topics in the gun room to so don't slack in that department to help another know what i mean

alan c. · 09-05-2002, 10:41 AM

Just wait Lenny--You will see.

09-05-2002, 03:02 PM

What do you think is going to happen Alan?

oneastrix · 09-05-2002, 03:18 PM

Not to get a big religious debate fired up, but The events of recent see to go hand in hand w/ Revelations in the Bible; if one so chooses to believe that way.

BattleRifleG3 · 09-05-2002, 03:35 PM

As far as the end of the world goes, I think it's silly that a lot of the people who claim that it is near seem to be trying to resit and prevent it. Well if you believe the Bible and the Bible says it will happen, why do those who believe it try to change it?
I believe the Bible, and believe that it tells us how to live and ultimately how things will end, but it does not say when or where, in fact it explicitly says you will not know the day or hour, but that we shouldn't be surprised at what happens but that we should keep the faith. I will resist forces that are evil, but I will not presume that I can stop them, only that I will not give in to them. If they take me out, oh well. If I would give my life for freedom, I would likewise not mind being gone when freedom is gone as well.

Stewart · 09-05-2002, 03:40 PM

"I will come like a thief in the night"

BattleRifleG3 · 09-05-2002, 03:41 PM

Yoink

09-05-2002, 05:02 PM

This country has seen much worse times. The Revolutionary War, Civil War, WWI, WWII, Cuban Blockade, the list goes on. I believe a lot of people on this board seem to want the end to come because they are "ready". Speaking in terms of arms and faith. But I wouldn't go stocking up just yet. It will blow over just like Desert Storm. People thought all of the arab countried would rise up and it would be a world war again and even go nuclear. Well guess what...it didn't.

09-05-2002, 06:40 PM

yeah but none of that was in Revelation...did y'all see the History Channel's "Inside Islam" ?

tommy · 09-05-2002, 06:40 PM

i don't know lenny . acording to the news people . the desert storm war is not over yet. and it looks like it is goin to escalate even more .so don't be so quick to say it didn't or it won't. to me if the war was over then why are we still patroling the sky over them. why do they keep shooting at us?. until all the soldiers are home and out of there . it is still a hot zone. and can blow up at any moment. and i do believe it is the right thing to be stocking up for the day when it does blow up. hell when a huricane comes my way i stock up for it and it sometimes goes the other way. so i guess am i crazy for buying supplies for that to. i believe that when it is ny time to go there is nuthing i can do about it . but i'll be ****ed if i am goin to see my familly get murderd . or raped .and say ( man if i only had a gun) or ( i should have planned for this to happen)but like i say if it is goin to happen there is not one thing that you or i can do to stop it from happening. i think what i said makes a little sinse. or at least i hope so

09-05-2002, 06:47 PM

Tommy,
Preparing for a huricane is very logical. Preparing for an invasion on your home property is looney. People that did that back in the 40's, 50's, and 60's have a lot of extra concrete and a lot of wasted food and batteries and cash.
I am not saying that being armed is a bad idea. On the contrary! But stocking up for some unknown event is a little short sighted I think.
Besides, like you said when it comes you can't stop it. So why bother?

tommy · 09-05-2002, 06:58 PM

just a peace of mind . it makes me feel better to know i have a way to defend my family. and that's all i need to sleep at night. you see i have a bad neck and can't defend myself no other way then to use deadly force if need be. so having my guns makes me feel alittle bit at ease. when i get in my car i have my .44 on the side of my seat. and at home i got my ak and my 12 guage . just a peaceof mind like i said thats all.

alan c. · 09-06-2002, 07:36 PM

Ok Lenny if not now then when. That should make you feel better.

johno · 09-06-2002, 09:56 PM

yeah, whatever happened to talking about guns on the gun forums?

Klaus · 09-07-2002, 09:23 AM

Well, this is the General (off topic) forum. Try one of the gun forums.

Mandy · 09-08-2002, 03:15 PM

:assult: :assult: :assult: :assult: :assult:

I keep my 12 gage close by and ready as well as my G23 with 3 hi cap mags, all the other guns and ammo are dismantled and inside the gun vault, no displays in the house.

:assult: :assult: :assult: :assult: :assult:

PAPA G · 09-08-2002, 03:56 PM

i for one do not know when, or in what form the SHTF day . but preparation for it is the better option to go. the SHTF day doesn't have to be neighbor against neighbor wars, or a UN invasion of our God given soverignty. some thing as basic as tornado, hurricane, heavey snow or earthquake is a more likely scenario.prudent people keep emergency supplies handy, equip their vehicles with supplies incase they get in trouble on a snow and ice covered road. just remember the first 72 hours are the most critical, and the gummint may not be there!!!

09-04-2002, 07:47 PM	#1
Lenny2 Guest Posts: n/a	Generation Gap The sky is not falling. Armageddon is not at hand. I am a little concerned about the amount of people on this board that are soothsayers about the end of times. I have seen complaints about young people, politics, business, religion, morality, and many other subjects. This is called a generation gap. It has been going on for hundreds (if not thousands) of years. Every generation thinks the next generation is responsible for the decline of the nation/religion/etc. When Elvis swung his hips, adults claimed that the moral declination of society was deplorable. They thought the end or morality and decency was imminent. Almost 50 years later - we still have laws prohibiting oral sex. Child pornography is still illegal. Prostitution is still legal in only one county in the country. Adults swear that children have no respect. Children swear that adults are "anachronistic". It is human nature. When legislation started to allow blacks the right to vote, it was thought by many to be the beginning of the end. It didn't hurt the country after all. 32 Years after the military shot colllege students at Kent State - It is still not a police state. Ruby Ridge, Waco - Still no jack-booted thugs smashing down doors in the middle of the night. I am not saying that we should turn a blind eye to our government or anything, but it is not nearly as bad as some are trying to make it out to be. I don't believe the !@#$ is going to hit the fan. I don't believe there is going to be a meltdown. Why? Because I believe the world is becoming a better place. Not worse. The standard of living has increased in most countries over the last few decades. The level of education has risen in most countries. The medial care around the world has improved over the last few decades. In short - Lighten Up!

09-04-2002, 08:13 PM	#2
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,452 Images: 13	I half agree... I ultimately believe the world will end, that things will in the course of history get worse. But we ought to presume to understand it all, like trying to name the antichrist or identify the day of the end of the world. What I'm saddened by is the decrease in gun related discussion. Nowadays when I check the new posts they're almost all in the Gun Room. Nothing wrong with the Gun Room, but let's talk more guns! By the way, this generation gap... I think I'm on the other side already. I don't think of my parents as anachronistic, just mentally challenged In fact, some times they seem to modern for me. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf Last edited by BattleRifleG3; 09-04-2002 at 08:16 PM.

09-05-2002, 10:41 AM	#5
alan c. Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pasadena,Tejas - also known as Texas Posts: 3,769 Images: 15 Blog Entries: 3	Just wait Lenny--You will see. __________________ God Bless. From Tejas -- formerly known as Texas.

09-05-2002, 03:18 PM	#7
oneastrix Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 5,213	Not to get a big religious debate fired up, but The events of recent see to go hand in hand w/ Revelations in the Bible; if one so chooses to believe that way. __________________ There's no one more thankful to sit at the table, than the one who best remembers hunger's pain.

09-05-2002, 03:35 PM	#8
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,452 Images: 13	As far as the end of the world goes, I think it's silly that a lot of the people who claim that it is near seem to be trying to resit and prevent it. Well if you believe the Bible and the Bible says it will happen, why do those who believe it try to change it? I believe the Bible, and believe that it tells us how to live and ultimately how things will end, but it does not say when or where, in fact it explicitly says you will not know the day or hour, but that we shouldn't be surprised at what happens but that we should keep the faith. I will resist forces that are evil, but I will not presume that I can stop them, only that I will not give in to them. If they take me out, oh well. If I would give my life for freedom, I would likewise not mind being gone when freedom is gone as well. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

09-04-2002, 11:43 PM	#3
wes Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Loveland Co Posts: 1,905	Slowly chipping away at the mountain,no one notices the mountain getting smaller; then,one day it's gone;and no one remembers that once a mountain stood there.

09-05-2002, 12:18 AM	#4
tommy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: schriever la Posts: 4,147 Images: 6	hey g3 i hear you on the gun talk now sinse you said something . i noticed that every day . well more than once a day the gun room has a new topic but all the other forums on this sight might go a day maybe a week . hell lokk at the ak forume when was the lats time you seen a new post. all i hear is a bunch of people raging the goverment. don't get me wronge they need ragging out . but lets get back to the guns . i know there are some of you out there that has something to say about a gun . well ! lets hear it . i hope knowone takes this personal caues it is not directed to know one in general. so lets talk gun and politics . how can i say this .( enquiering minds want to know) lol ps i do like the topics in the gun room to so don't slack in that department to help another know what i mean

09-05-2002, 03:02 PM	#6
Lenny2 Guest Posts: n/a	What do you think is going to happen Alan?

09-05-2002, 03:40 PM	#9
Stewart Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Calhoun, Georgia Posts: 675	"I will come like a thief in the night" __________________ "You can sleep well at night because rough men are willing to commit violent acts on your behalf" George Orwell

09-05-2002, 03:41 PM	#10
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,452 Images: 13	Yoink __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

09-05-2002, 05:02 PM	#11
Lenny2 Guest Posts: n/a	This country has seen much worse times. The Revolutionary War, Civil War, WWI, WWII, Cuban Blockade, the list goes on. I believe a lot of people on this board seem to want the end to come because they are "ready". Speaking in terms of arms and faith. But I wouldn't go stocking up just yet. It will blow over just like Desert Storm. People thought all of the arab countried would rise up and it would be a world war again and even go nuclear. Well guess what...it didn't.

09-05-2002, 06:40 PM	#12
Logansdad Guest Posts: n/a	yeah but none of that was in Revelation...did y'all see the History Channel's "Inside Islam" ?

09-05-2002, 06:47 PM	#14
Lenny2 Guest Posts: n/a	Tommy, Preparing for a huricane is very logical. Preparing for an invasion on your home property is looney. People that did that back in the 40's, 50's, and 60's have a lot of extra concrete and a lot of wasted food and batteries and cash. I am not saying that being armed is a bad idea. On the contrary! But stocking up for some unknown event is a little short sighted I think. Besides, like you said when it comes you can't stop it. So why bother?

09-05-2002, 06:58 PM	#15
tommy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: schriever la Posts: 4,147 Images: 6	just a peace of mind . it makes me feel better to know i have a way to defend my family. and that's all i need to sleep at night. you see i have a bad neck and can't defend myself no other way then to use deadly force if need be. so having my guns makes me feel alittle bit at ease. when i get in my car i have my .44 on the side of my seat. and at home i got my ak and my 12 guage . just a peaceof mind like i said thats all.

09-06-2002, 07:36 PM	#16
alan c. Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pasadena,Tejas - also known as Texas Posts: 3,769 Images: 15 Blog Entries: 3	Ok Lenny if not now then when. That should make you feel better. __________________ God Bless. From Tejas -- formerly known as Texas.

09-06-2002, 09:56 PM	#17
johno Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Fort Lewis, WA Posts: 181	yeah, whatever happened to talking about guns on the gun forums?

09-07-2002, 09:23 AM	#18
Klaus Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cypress, Texas Posts: 2,382	Well, this is the General (off topic) forum. Try one of the gun forums. __________________ "Gee, Wally, Eddie Haskel's mom puts out!"

09-08-2002, 03:15 PM	#19
Mandy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Juan, Puerto Rico Posts: 1,641	:assult: :assult: :assult: :assult: :assult: I keep my 12 gage close by and ready as well as my G23 with 3 hi cap mags, all the other guns and ammo are dismantled and inside the gun vault, no displays in the house. :assult: :assult: :assult: :assult: :assult: __________________ :assult: :assult: :assult: :assult: :assult: Better be judged by 12 than carried by 6. _________________________________ If you gonna die, die with your boots on ! Iron Maiden _________________________________ The deeper you go, the better it feels ! Divers Motto :uzi: :uzi: :uzi: :uzi: :uzi:

09-08-2002, 03:56 PM	#20
PAPA G Guest Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somerset, kentucky Posts: 11	i for one do not know when, or in what form the SHTF day . but preparation for it is the better option to go. the SHTF day doesn't have to be neighbor against neighbor wars, or a UN invasion of our God given soverignty. some thing as basic as tornado, hurricane, heavey snow or earthquake is a more likely scenario.prudent people keep emergency supplies handy, equip their vehicles with supplies incase they get in trouble on a snow and ice covered road. just remember the first 72 hours are the most critical, and the gummint may not be there!!!