Mayors: Gun ruling won't stop prevention efforts...

[Seabeescotty]

We finally won a round, but it won't stop the gunbanners from hiring more smart lawyers, and looking for another loophole. We must stay vigilant, and aware, of what's happening around the country. If we go complacent now, we will lose what little ground we've gained. These folks are not about to roll over and admit defeat. They will continue to try and disarm the people of this country, because it's the only way they can gain absolute power. And we all know that is the ultimate goal, for the gunbanners, absolute power, not the safety and wellbeing of the folks they are supposed to be serving.

[germanbock]

Originally Posted by .22guy

We're working on it.

It's not going to be a quick or easy battle, but what things worth doing in life are?

What are you working on? What type of relief should I expect?

[LefthandShooter]

Originally Posted by troy2000

They need to go after the criminals using guns, not the decent folk who own them.

HERE! HERE!
I could not have said it any better!

[.22guy]

Originally Posted by germanbock

What are you working on? What type of relief should I expect?

Check out calguns.net.

I think they are planning on challenging the "Assault Weapons" ban because it was upheld by the CA supreme court by the reasoning that the 2nd is a collective right, and not an individual right. So we have grounds to argue that. Basically, all the crappy laws in this state are being looked at.

If you want to help go to the site I mentioned and donate to the Calguns Foundation. They are helping fund all this. These laws won't just go away overnight or even one night. They take lots of court time, which is pricey. But well worth it.

PM me if you want more info and I'll try to find more info for ya.

[jimkim]

Originally Posted by Seabeescotty

We finally won a round, but it won't stop the gunbanners from hiring more smart lawyers, and looking for another loophole. We must stay vigilant, and aware, of what's happening around the country. If we go complacent now, we will lose what little ground we've gained. These folks are not about to roll over and admit defeat. They will continue to try and disarm the people of this country, because it's the only way they can gain absolute power. And we all know that is the ultimate goal, for the gunbanners, absolute power, not the safety and wellbeing of the folks they are supposed to be serving.

Kinda' like playing whac-a-mole. Maybe if criminal charges were brought against these mayors for violating thier oath of office they might get the message. I'm not gonna hold my breath.

[xlh883cc]

Call me a defeatist and a troll ( wich I am neither), but to me this is just a phyrric victory.

[TXplt]

Originally Posted by xlh883cc

Call me a defeatist and a troll ( wich I am neither), but to me this is just a phyrric victory.

I'll certainly not name call, and you are entitled to your opinion, but I very much do disagree.

Finally, we have a verification from the SCOTUS that the 2nd Amendment does and was intended to affirm the right of the individual to keep and bear arms in defense of oneself and of our constitutional form of government. It's not a collective right.

It will take time, however, anti-gun laws will be overturned. Constitutional precidents carry a great deal of weight and are in force for long time periods; I doubt in my lifetime we'll see this issue redressed save if someone chooses to amend our Constitution. Some will try to lawyer and limit; however, when you read the opinion, it is very clear that this is unacceptable and that draconian gun control or time consuming obstacles violate the premise of the decision. Politicians won't be able to hide behind the "collective" issue to do whatever they want and are in effect forced to abide by this lest they be prosecuted. The "little Caesars" in Chitown, DC, NY, and elsewhere will not be able to stomp on the RKBA anymore--a public servant is charged with defending our constitution and it has been made clear what that is. The bottom line, I believe, is that most states will be forced into, at the very least, a shall-issue system for both firearm possession and carriage. Bans against semi-autos will be overturned and things like microstamping stand a great chance of being labeled as unconstitutional. The tide has been reversed, and will proceed in the RKBA favor over potentially several generations.

Make no mistakes, the road ahead is long and arduous and we need remain ever vigilant (especially on the information warfare and media distorting the facts arena). In time the RKBA shall prevail and our country will be better for it.

Oh yes, and crime will go down.

[Seabeescotty]

+1 That was a great post, and I am so happy to see that others feel the same way. We can never drop our guard, or they will be at us again. We must somehow get the word out that we are not the nuts they made us out to be, but we are the folks who stood, and still stand, for American Freedom! A disarmed people is nothing more than a gang of servants for those in power.

[Mooseman684]

Question: Did the murder rate really triple under the Washington, DC, gun
> ban?
>
> Answer: Yes. The murder rate was 26.8 homicides per 100,000 people in
> 1976, when the ban became law. That would be its lowest rate for the next
> 30 years. It peaked at 80.6 homicides per 100,000 people in 1991.
>
> Question: What's the highest the murder rate has been in gun-happy West
> Virginia in that time?
> Answer: 6.9 homicides per 100,000 people.
>
> Question: So why did Eugene Robinson of the Washington Post write: "The
> practical benefits of effective gun control are obvious: If there are
> fewer guns, there are fewer shootings and fewer funerals. As everyone
> knows, in the District of Columbia - and in just about every city in the
> nation, big or small - there are far too many funerals. The handgun is the
> weapon of choice in keeping the U.S. homicide rate at a level that the
> rest of the civilized world finds incomprehensible and appalling."
>
> Answer: Ignorance.
>
> Question: So why did Colbert King of the Washington Post write: "If D.C.
> street thugs are pleased by anything, it's probably the fact that five of
> the justices - a slim majority, but that's all it takes to win - have come
> around to seeing things their way."
>
> Answer: Ignorance.
>
> Question: So why did E.J. Dionne of the Washington Post write: "In
> knocking down the District's 32-year-old ban on handgun possession, the
> conservatives on the Supreme Court have again shown their willingness to
> abandon precedent in order to do whatever is necessary to further the
> agenda of the contemporary political right."
>
> Answer: Ignorance.
>
> These are not ignorant men, they just do not know the facts about DC's
> murders. The murders are not committed by the lawful exercise of one's
> right to keep and bear arms but rather by a city policy that disarms the
> people and leaves them vulnerable to the very thugs that King complained
> about.

[Zen900]

Mayors are exceeding their authority. You must leave your constitutional rights behind when you enter the city limits of some towns. Why aren't these mayors like Bloomberg etc being put in jail?

[Big Dog]

A good move in the right direction, BUT....
Having the Constitutional Right to own a handgun doesn't mean they will be allowed to USE that right!
The Antigun GubermintNazis can simply not give business licences to FFL's - so no local dealers.
Then they can institute the faulty idea like Maryland , California and others, of forcing the manufacturer to meet ludicrous 'safety' requirements to sell their guns there. No 'okay' means no guns!
There are always ways around the good laws - remember, the 'law-makers' are professional Lawyers - they know the angles! Also, they can keep a lawsuit tied up in court for years - the average Joe American can't pay for that kind of 'justice'. So the barstages win in the end.

We MUST get these Gungrabbers OUT OF OFFICE!! This must be our foremost effort. Eliminate the problem by eliminating the PROBLEM!!

[iflylow74]

Originally Posted by Mike Franklin

The Mayors I saw throwing fits all serve in Cities with extremely high crime rates. They just don't get it. Of course you'll notice at the Press Releases that these same Mayors have plenty of Armed Bodyguards standing close.

To me that is sooo funny and sooo sad at the same time! These stupid pompus anti-gun politicians spewing their B.S. that guns are bad meanwhile their bulky heavily armed body guards are standing watch behind them. Man that burns my hide!!!!

[.22guy]

Originally Posted by iflylow74

To me that is sooo funny and sooo sad at the same time! These stupid pompus anti-gun politicians spewing their B.S. that guns are bad meanwhile their bulky heavily armed body guards are standing watch behind them. Man that burns my hide!!!!

It all comes down to their elitist attitudes. They think they are more important than us, and that's a fact.

[knightRider]

+1

[Deersniper]

I'm with Troy, they took away legal guns but didn't bust all the hoods and disarm them. Thus the chaos, They need to get rid of the gangs. Gun bans don't work, they had years to prove it. Criminals will always find a way to get them. Under those circumstances, Law abiding people need to be armed.

[knightRider]

+1

[LiveToShoot]

Maybe instead of the training exercise that just took place in Indianapolis, there should have been a house cleaning operation in DC...to rid the city of its cockroach hoods and their illegal guns?

...and, we need to do whatever we can to help the decent, law-abiding people in DC, and all other cities, be armed.