[Mike82]

speaking of machine errors, could there be a bur in the slot of receiver where I/E sits causing it not to come all the way out? or could it be worse and the slot actuallynot be machined out enough, as in the slot dimensions arent large enough in 1 spot...... if u have a micrometer, do some comparing between the I/E slots on the m44 and 91/30...... do that if you're bored....now that i think of it, that would be a tiring procedure

[marion57]

Cremley:
First to fix your problem you have to understand how the system works!this is a video of the action and how it works!!
Mosin Nagant Operation Video
From what your posting the only problem that it can be is the interupter spring or interupter. watch the viedo and then lets take another look at your problem . We can fix this rifle.. only place you can get a scratch down the side of a casing is in the chamber with a burr , in the bore itself , from the interupter
looking down from the top of rifle with the bolt open and ammo in it see where the tab holding the next shell from poping up is and then look at your other rifle and compare ..

[cremley]

Quote:       Originally Posted by marion57

Cremley: First to fix your problem you have to understand how the system works!this is a video of the action and how it works!! Mosin Nagant Operation Video From what your posting the only problem that it can be is the interupter spring or interupter. watch the viedo and then lets take another look at your problem . We can fix this rifle.. only place you can get a scratch down the side of a casing is in the chamber with a burr , in the bore itself , from the interupter looking down from the top of rifle with the bolt open and ammo in it see where the tab holding the next shell from poping up is and then look at your other rifle and compare ..

Ok, I watched the video and right at 25-26 seconds is where I am having the problems. when I go to extract, bullet #4 from the bottom, catches on the bottom of the bolt. I have to smack the bolt back to get it to move. bullet #4 then gets a good rub at the top of the neck (where the casing goes from the large diameter to the small diameter) and then the the bolt moves all the way to extract #5 and leaves a scratch line on #4 right down the middle. I can't tell how this is possibly happening because #4 in the video is pushed down while mine seems to stay up and get scratched.

I will look at both of them again and get out my calipers to see what the difference is. I am flying out to upper Michigan on Saturday the 12 and returning the following Saturday so I may have to start a new thread when I get back. I hope I can fix this problem before then though.

[marion57]

ok as I suspected your problem is the interupter

or spring or both .. check it against your other one !!number 4 from botton should be being held down by interupter!

Quote:       Originally Posted by cremley

Ok, I watched the video and right at 25-26 seconds is where I am having the problems. when I go to extract, bullet #4 from the bottom, catches on the bottom of the bolt. I have to smack the bolt back to get it to move. bullet #4 then gets a good rub at the top of the neck (where the casing goes from the large diameter to the small diameter) and then the the bolt moves all the way to extract #5 and leaves a scratch line on #4 right down the middle. I can't tell how this is possibly happening because #4 in the video is pushed down while mine seems to stay up and get scratched. I will look at both of them again and get out my calipers to see what the difference is. I am flying out to upper Michigan on Saturday the 12 and returning the following Saturday so I may have to start a new thread when I get back. I hope I can fix this problem before then though.

[cremley]

well now that we found the problem (I hope), How am I gonna go about fixing it? if this is the actual problem. I will have to check with the m44

[marion57]

Quote:       Originally Posted by cremley

well now that we found the problem (I hope), How am I gonna go about fixing it? if this is the actual problem. I will have to check with the m44

you have two choices !! try bending the tab inside down just a bit so it dont rub .. Second buy a new interuper

Before you do all that pull the interuper off your m44 and put it on the 91x30 see if it fixes the problem

[cremley]

will do. thanks marion.

O, do you know of the best way to get that screw out that holds the interupter spring in? the one on the 91/30 comes out easy, but I almost stripped the head on the m44.

[marion57]

Quote:       Originally Posted by cremley

will do. thanks marion. O, do you know of the best way to get that screw out that holds the interupter spring in? the one on the 91/30 comes out easy, but I almost stripped the head on the m44.

just make sure you have right size screwdriver or impact driver if you know what that is

[cremley]

I have an impact driver but it is rather large and I might put a hole right through it! lol!

[SwedeSteve]

Too keep the lingo straight so you both are talking about the same thing With a two piece, the larger part is the ejector, and the small "spring" type part that screws in is the interrupter. I replicated the problem today by bending the interrupter UP! So maybe that is it. The other way I replicated the problem was by expanding the magazine well and the interrupter "snagged" on the magazine well.

[marion57]

Quote:       Originally Posted by SwedeSteve

Too keep the lingo straight so you both are talking about the same thing With a two piece, the larger part is the ejector, and the small "spring" type part that screws in is the interrupter. I replicated the problem today by bending the interrupter UP! So maybe that is it. The other way I replicated the problem was by expanding the magazine well and the interrupter "snagged" on the magazine well.

EXACTLY!!!
+ 100
two piece

[cremley]

so I should bend the interrupter down to fix the problem?

[marion57]

Quote:       Originally Posted by cremley

so I should bend the interrupter down to fix the problem?

at this point you have nothing to lose just make sure the hole in the spring still allows interuptor to move

[SwedeSteve]

Yes, bend it down, also look at the top edges of the magazine.

[cremley]

well I bent it down or tried at least and then took it out to a range near my house. I put the five in and it scratched every one of them really bad. they all fired ok and hit their targets at 200yds but it is still scratching. I don't know, maybe I didn't bend it far enough or bend it at all, I couldn't tell. what did you use to bend the bottom of that spring/interrupter? I don't want to bend it too far or break it off. I am worried that it is already as far as it can go and If I bend it any more, the rounds will not be held down by it.

[SwedeSteve]

HOORAY !! 23 days later, he fixed the problem !! Something big to be said for perserverance !! I am so glad, as this has kept me up at nights. Congrats to Cremley!! He will publish the quest from start to finish. You newbies take note. He is awesome in that he didn't quit.

[Mike82]

ummm....doesnt look like he did....his latest post on the 11th states still scrubbing

[gandog56]

My Mosin loading problem

My shoulder makes me quit loading before I really want to stop loading them.

[Mike82]

lol....that reply should be moved to the "wooses" thread

[gandog56]

Actually, I guess it's the emptying them part that is painful.