I just took my "new" 91/30 to the range this weekend and put about 15 rounds through it. I had just refinished the stock and the bluing on the rifle because it was in terrible condition. The receiver is from the tula factory and so is the stock and some other parts. it also has a bunch of parts from Izhevsk including some of the parts on the bolt.
Anyway, I tried loading empty casings into it when I was at my house and I couldn't lock the bolt down fully into place to fire. no matter what I did, I couldn't load it. I figured that it was a problem with loading an empty case but then I tried in in my m44 and I was able to close the bolt and squeeze the trigger. So, I figured it probably wouldn't load the bullets but I took it to the range anyway. I was able to load the bullet without a problem. I pointed it at the target and BANG, I hit 4" above the bullseye dead center at 50 yds from a standing position. I put three bullets in the mag and then I started to have the problems. It was hard to push the bullet forward and when it finally went, it locked into place and I was able to fire. after I extracted it, I noticed that the bolt had scratched a long line in the casing and the bullet. I was able to load all of them and it shot perfectly but every time it scratched the case and the bullet pretty bad.
sorry for making this post so long but I figured I would explain my problem. Do you guys know how I can fix this loading problem? I don't know if any adjustments could be made.
Thanks,
Chris
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remember exactly how u loaded a round, and dont fire it, take it out and by where the scratch is u should be able to find the burr. also, if the scratch is really deep, be careful firing, bc if that burr slices that casing think ice berg and titanic. i know people who have been disfirgured by firing unsafe rounds, or using a dirty weapon, or operating a weapon with a known malfunction like having a burr in this case. just be careful im saying.
The I checked the bottom of the bold but I didn't find any burrs. I will have to look again. It isn't getting scratched when it goes into the chamber though, it is the bullet that is still at the top of the magazine that gets scratched by the bolt or something. Thanks Smokin' Nagant for the safety info. I won't shoot any more that get scratched that bad.
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hmm, check ur extractor or whatever its called in the breach that feeds the next round after you dispell one. also the bottom of the bolt if u think its from that.
try this, chamber a round by hand, and fire it and see if there are any marks, then try it again with 2 round, one in the breach reday to feed and the other under it in the mag. this will isolate where it occurs, the "breach" (where the round is prior to being fired) or if its in another area of the receiver, (where the rounds are prior to being fed to be fired).
sorry after reading ur post better, i saw its not the breach, or the round being fired, but the on in the hole about to be right? sounds like its one of those steel plates inside the receiver or even the bolt bottom.
come to think of it, if you find that GIF of the mosin action cycling, that may make it easier to see where the damage would possibly occur. try to find it, its probably on youtube
cremley- Nothing touches the whole length of the cartridge on the bolt. Try chambering a round, and while it is chambered, dump the magazine. Eject the round chambered. If the ejected round is scratched, it's the chamber. If the top round in the magazine is scratched look at interruptor. If an empty won't feed it is probably in the chamber. Are you chambering old brass when you try this?
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cremley- Nothing touches the whole length of the cartridge on the bolt. Try chambering a round, and while it is chambered, dump the magazine. Eject the round chambered. If the ejected round is scratched, it's the chamber. If the top round in the magazine is scratched look at interruptor. If an empty won't feed it is probably in the chamber. Are you chambering old brass when you try this?
I am chambering old brass so I thought that it had just expanded but the same brass fit into my m44 without a problem. It could be a tighter tolerance in the 91/30 though because it was made at Tula. I don't know. Also, what is the interrupter and where is it located?
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I should have said this earlier. Place the rifle upside-down with the muzzle on the floor. Drop a cartridge down into the chamber and close the bolt. Any difficulty ?? Pick the rifle up to the horizontal and eject the cartridge. Any marks on it ??
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I am chambering old brass so I thought that it had just expanded but the same brass fit into my m44 without a problem. It could be a tighter tolerance in the 91/30 though because it was made at Tula. I don't know. Also, what is the interrupter and where is it located?
I put one empty cartrige in and loaded it into the chamber after a little of trouble from the sticky bolt. it loaded fine and I squeezed the trigger. I extracted it and I found a terrible nitch on the back rim of the cartrige on the outer edge. I looked inside of the chamber and saw a small burr sticking down. That should be an easy fix by a gunsmith I would hope. The next problem is the cartrige that is in the magazine. when the bolt comes back to extract the empty cartrige, it gets stuck on the bullet and cartrige in the magazine and it rubs a line straight down the middle of it for the full length of the cartrige. I didn't see any problems on the bottom of the bolt other than a line where it looks like it has been rubbing since it was made. The reciever is Tula and I think the bolt is Ishevsk if that helps. I don't see any adjustments or anything for it. I will try to post some pics of the shells when I can.
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cremely, pull the bolt out and drop the elevator out of the mag. Look down at the left side of the reciever well and you'll see a small metal tab below the ejector, this is the interruptor.
The interruptor holds the #2 cartridge down in the mag while the bolt strips the top one off of the stack. Just before the bolt fully closes, it pushes the ejector outwards which, in turn, pushes the interruptor back, allowing the cartridge to move upwards. If the cases are getting scratched up by the bolt, it's because the interruptor isn't holding the top cartidge in the mag down properly. You may have to tweak the interruptor a bit, or you may have the ejector in backwards.
yes SwedeSteve. There is a fixable burr in the reciever but for the rubbing of the casing, I don't have a clue how that could be fixed. I may just have to take it to a gunsmith.
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cremley- Toolman said it. It is your interruptor. Have you detail stripped your Mosin when you cleaned it? Doesn't sound like it. Or did you just remove the barreled action from the stock?
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