Any Rock Hounds or Amateur Geologists?

Burke · 07-08-2008, 10:55 AM

I have been collecting and hoarding rocks since I was 9 years old.
My son is a true rock hound and has found some of our biggest scores.

I frequent a place that has a plethora of rocks.

A week ago I found a small quartz outcropping and was suprised to see a Light green/Blue powdery "rock" connected with it.
I pulled some out and saw that as the green got closer to the quartz it really solidified into what looks like Green Quartz. I don't think it is but its is Green and it is growing into the quartz..so I guess technically it is Green Quartz, but not to the variety I think it belongs.

I looked at some of my books and it looks exactly like a unstablilized Turquoise in the raw...But I can't be sure. I'm hoping there are some Rock Men who can help me..

In this area I have found Blue Azurite, Malachite, Chrysacolla and tons of incredible Crystal Quartz pieces. Some of the Quartz is Potassium enriched (my opinion) and it is like a red quartz..really beautiful.

The first 2 pics are of the Green/Blue powdery rock, you can see the Quartz sticking out on the right. If it's Turquoise, I have hit the mother lode..
The other pics are of rock scores that I have found all within 200 yards of eachother. Photos of more rocks are in my albums..

There is a local Geologist who owns a rock shop here in town...He's an A-Hole, I have brought 2 finds to see what they were only to have him try to sell me books and then tell me appraisals and identification costs $10.00..none of my books really shows me in detailed color what raw Turq. is..but that one picture kinda looks like it..

So if anyone has any idea as to what the "greenish/bluish" rock might be, I'd appreciate it..

snuffysmith · 07-08-2008, 11:02 AM

Burke, interesting photos there, I had (still do) an interest in rock hounding as a possible hobby for when I retired, now that my health has forced me to retire, I've had to put it on the back burner. Check some of the many rockhounding sites on the internet; I'm sure there is an expert that could help you. Just don't give out the location of your find untill you file a claim. You might have a big turquoise deposit there. Good luck and keep us posted on this, it is interesting.

Snuffy

damage855 · 07-08-2008, 03:14 PM

My wife has gotten into rock hounding lately and she agress it looks like turgusise. She also offered to investigate first hand for you just send me the GPS location in a privite message. LOL

Earl Easter · 07-08-2008, 06:27 PM

Burke
Sorry i don't know what it is but it looks like Turquoise. I had taken some rocks of mine that where from the North West Wyoming Mountain area to a local college. The Geologist said immediately that it was Oceanic Crustaceans. He also said that he would further examine the rock that i had wet saw cut in half and would give me a full detail report for free. That was a great thing that he did, so maybe your local college will do the same for your find. Good luck with that. This is probably illegal but i have found an old Indian tomahawk and several arrowheads in the mountains of Pennsylvania. I have had them since i was a kid. And treasure them every time i look at them. Good luck with your find! and thank you for the interesting subject.....

Brother Bob · 07-08-2008, 07:28 PM

Burke, look up Rose Rocks. They're from around Noble, OK. I have some small ones that I could send you. PM me if you're interested.

TexasT · 07-08-2008, 07:30 PM

You might want to talk to SA. I think his wife does a lot of rock hunting.

SPOCAHP ANAR · 07-08-2008, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TexasT

You might want to talk to SA. I think his wife does a lot of rock hunting.

She's the artist; I'm the rockhound/geologist.

Burke; hard to say without being able to view up close. From what I can see I think it will be hard to determine any physical properties such as Hardness or Streak due to sample size. It's a good guess that it could be a copper based mineral or any one of the "solution quartzes". Is the white stuff around it quartz?

PS If you have one throw a blacklight on it and see if it flouresces a different color. If it does then it will help narrow it down. More than likely this will be a waste of time.

TexasT · 07-08-2008, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPOCAHP ANAR

She's the artist; I'm the rockhound/geologist.

I keep getting you confused with the Pediatrician I worked with. His wife is the one that's the geologist.

billy · 07-08-2008, 10:23 PM

i used to work in a goldmine.
i ended up with some beautiful specimens (not gold) but wolfenite ,amethyst,jadeite and many spectacular quart crystals

Burke · 07-09-2008, 02:10 AM

SA, the hardness on the MOHs scale would be 1 and it is a powder, I couldn't take any pieces bigger than egg w/o it breaking and powdering. It has black specs, perhaps (biotite?) They are hard and semi shiny.
The Quartz is plentiful in the area and the Green which snakes into it is very deep like Brazilian Quartz..
I'm about ready to take a class to educate myself better..I'll have to wait until the money queen drops by.
Thanks guys.
I've done 5000 online image and info searches and I can't find crap..
I will get my GF's camera and take some better pics of what I have.

billy, Wolfenite is my favorite, that deep color and square shapes are so incredible, I payed 30 bucks for a very nice square shingle of it..and that is about as big a pencil eraser.

07-08-2008, 10:55 AM	#1
Burke Ahh..Cordite. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gun City, Arizona Posts: 556 Images: 23	Any Rock Hounds or Amateur Geologists? I have been collecting and hoarding rocks since I was 9 years old. My son is a true rock hound and has found some of our biggest scores. I frequent a place that has a plethora of rocks. A week ago I found a small quartz outcropping and was suprised to see a Light green/Blue powdery "rock" connected with it. I pulled some out and saw that as the green got closer to the quartz it really solidified into what looks like Green Quartz. I don't think it is but its is Green and it is growing into the quartz..so I guess technically it is Green Quartz, but not to the variety I think it belongs. I looked at some of my books and it looks exactly like a unstablilized Turquoise in the raw...But I can't be sure. I'm hoping there are some Rock Men who can help me.. In this area I have found Blue Azurite, Malachite, Chrysacolla and tons of incredible Crystal Quartz pieces. Some of the Quartz is Potassium enriched (my opinion) and it is like a red quartz..really beautiful. The first 2 pics are of the Green/Blue powdery rock, you can see the Quartz sticking out on the right. If it's Turquoise, I have hit the mother lode.. The other pics are of rock scores that I have found all within 200 yards of eachother. Photos of more rocks are in my albums.. There is a local Geologist who owns a rock shop here in town...He's an A-Hole, I have brought 2 finds to see what they were only to have him try to sell me books and then tell me appraisals and identification costs $10.00..none of my books really shows me in detailed color what raw Turq. is..but that one picture kinda looks like it.. So if anyone has any idea as to what the "greenish/bluish" rock might be, I'd appreciate it.. __________________ As long as I have a gun in my hand..I control my own destiny.

07-08-2008, 11:02 AM	#2
snuffysmith Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: central Arkansas Posts: 580	Burke, interesting photos there, I had (still do) an interest in rock hounding as a possible hobby for when I retired, now that my health has forced me to retire, I've had to put it on the back burner. Check some of the many rockhounding sites on the internet; I'm sure there is an expert that could help you. Just don't give out the location of your find untill you file a claim. You might have a big turquoise deposit there. Good luck and keep us posted on this, it is interesting. Snuffy __________________ time & weather changes everything KTALGSTO

07-08-2008, 03:14 PM	#3
damage855 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: North Carolina / Lake Norman Posts: 942 Blog Entries: 1	My wife has gotten into rock hounding lately and she agress it looks like turgusise. She also offered to investigate first hand for you just send me the GPS location in a privite message. LOL __________________ If total goverment control will make us all safer, then why are prisons so dangerous?

07-08-2008, 07:28 PM	#5
Brother Bob The Mayor Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Olive Branch, MS. Posts: 3,046 Blog Entries: 3	Burke, look up Rose Rocks. They're from around Noble, OK. I have some small ones that I could send you. PM me if you're interested. __________________ The Most Expensive Commodity In This Country Is Ignorance!

07-08-2008, 07:30 PM	#6
TexasT No Whining Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Somewhere. Posts: 4,937 Blog Entries: 17	You might want to talk to SA. I think his wife does a lot of rock hunting. __________________ I walk like this because I can back it up.

07-08-2008, 06:27 PM	#4
Earl Easter Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 781 Images: 20	Burke Sorry i don't know what it is but it looks like Turquoise. I had taken some rocks of mine that where from the North West Wyoming Mountain area to a local college. The Geologist said immediately that it was Oceanic Crustaceans. He also said that he would further examine the rock that i had wet saw cut in half and would give me a full detail report for free. That was a great thing that he did, so maybe your local college will do the same for your find. Good luck with that. This is probably illegal but i have found an old Indian tomahawk and several arrowheads in the mountains of Pennsylvania. I have had them since i was a kid. And treasure them every time i look at them. Good luck with your find! and thank you for the interesting subject.....

07-08-2008, 10:23 PM	#9
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 14,225 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 154	i used to work in a goldmine. i ended up with some beautiful specimens (not gold) but wolfenite ,amethyst,jadeite and many spectacular quart crystals __________________ "I would never die for my beliefs because what if I'm wrong?"- Bertrand Russell

07-09-2008, 02:10 AM	#10
Burke Ahh..Cordite. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gun City, Arizona Posts: 556 Images: 23	SA, the hardness on the MOHs scale would be 1 and it is a powder, I couldn't take any pieces bigger than egg w/o it breaking and powdering. It has black specs, perhaps (biotite?) They are hard and semi shiny. The Quartz is plentiful in the area and the Green which snakes into it is very deep like Brazilian Quartz.. I'm about ready to take a class to educate myself better..I'll have to wait until the money queen drops by. Thanks guys. I've done 5000 online image and info searches and I can't find crap.. I will get my GF's camera and take some better pics of what I have. billy, Wolfenite is my favorite, that deep color and square shapes are so incredible, I payed 30 bucks for a very nice square shingle of it..and that is about as big a pencil eraser. __________________ As long as I have a gun in my hand..I control my own destiny.