07-21-2008, 01:06 PM
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After 20 years in corrections, I have seen first hand what drugs do to people. I have seen inmates that started coming to jail reasonably healthy 25 to 30 year olds. 15 years later they are just a shell of a human being, emaciated because they have to have the fix and the hell with food.. They get sentenced and we (tax payers) have to care for them food, lodging, medical and other "rights" that they have. they do six months to a year and leave the jail in almost perfect health, all bulked up and ready for society. six to 8 months later they are back in all screwed up again. It's an endless cycle.
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07-21-2008, 01:54 PM
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^I agree. I know exactly what you're talking about because I spend quite a bit of time in the prison hospital. HIV-1 seroconversion rates among female commercial...[AIDS. 1994] - PubMed Result HIV and STD prevention in the sex industry: interventions targeting prostitutes, their customers and brothel owners. http://htc.anu.edu.au/pdfs/Caldweb1.pdf <really good article http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/pic...5&blobtype=pdf <also a good read Health officials can account for the prostitutes in the brothels, but they can't account for what someone may be bringing in from the outside.
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07-21-2008, 01:54 PM
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99% of the people don't see that tho JJ,only you people that have to deal with the druggies see it. sam.
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07-21-2008, 03:59 PM
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Hee Haw  !!!!!!
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07-21-2008, 04:01 PM
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When a strategery for me doesn't work, I try something else.
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07-21-2008, 04:19 PM
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Anyone here know who "Ted Haggard" is? Just cause you go to church and preach "Holyness" doesn't mean you don't have certain "needs". He not only built one of the largest churches in our state but he's also gay, hired a gay prostitute and used Meth. The only thing I saw wrong with him was him being a hypocrite and a meth user. Condoms stop STDs. |
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07-21-2008, 04:36 PM
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| Hello troy2000
When I wrote "if you want whoredom on demand" please note I was not referring to any individual but to the collective "you" of society. Does anyone think I would ever take my grandchildren to a city with legalized whoredom? Never !!!! Would I want my granddaughter to listen to lectures on how legalized whoredom benefits society? Never !!!! Whoredom was an open part of the American experience. It finally hit the big boulder in the road in 1918 when, by the data collection of the times, 52,000 women died of sexually transmitted diseases. You might want to read the history of Storyville in the French Quarter of New Orleans where they legalized and put street boundaries on prostitution. It staggers human imagination to read the results of that experiment. |
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07-21-2008, 07:12 PM
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07-21-2008, 11:45 PM
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And I think some of you are coming at this and other problems from the wrong end. You talk about making drugs legal; making prostitution legal; making gay behavior legal; making burning the flag legal; etc; as though everything in the world is a crime unless there's a law specifically okaying it. But as a general rule, laws don't make things legal. They make them illegal. Everything in the world is inherently legal without special permission, unless there's a law specifying otherwise; just as our rights are inherent unless restricted for good reason, not the other way around. And eliminating a law banning some activity or substance is in no way an official endorsement of it, or a recommendation that it be indulged in. Sometimes eliminating a law is just an acknowledgment that it's wasting manpower and resources, without doing enough good to justify the investment. We've been arresting people and throwing them in jail for prostitution and drugs for years and years now, and haven't put a dent in either behavior. Maybe it's time to try other approaches. One definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over, and expecting a different result...just like the Brady solution to gun bans not working is to create even more gun bans. A footnote to your historical references: there were lots of people who opposed cures for venereal diseases, because it would eliminate the 'punishment' for promiscuity and prostitution. Of course, none of them seemed to notice or care that the punishment wasn't stopping people anyway... And you might not take your granddaughter to a city that has legal prostitution. But if you've taken her to any city whatsoever, you apparently have no objection to her being in one where it's illegal but thriving. You aren't going to find a city where women aren't selling their bodies; it's impossible to avoid. Maybe instead, you should just explain to her why you think it's wrong anyway. I think I did a fair-to-middling job of teaching my kids that seeing something done doesn't mean it's right and they can do it too...
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07-22-2008, 12:22 AM
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The crazy idea that legalizing prostitution would cause the divorce rate to drop has to be one of the dumbest things I have ever read on this forum. One of the leading causes of divorce in this country is infidelity. How can a husband or a wife having sex with a prostitute outside of marriage, help that marriage?!?!?!? Are you saying that having a "open marriage" so the husband and wife can have sex with anyone they want, would make their marriage stronger?!?!? What would be the point of geeting married in the first place if both of you are going to still scr#w around? Open marriages very seldom workout for very long, that is a proven fact. The idea of the wife staying at home while the husband works may be the norm in the hills of Kentucky, but in most U.S. families today, regardless of how much money the husband makes, both the husband and wife works, especially if they don't have any kids. I have a friend of mine who has been a divorce attorney for about 30 years. I also have a friend who has been a marriage counselor for about 10 years and my wife is also a social worker at a local hospital, and they all agree on one fact. In almost all of the cases when the husband commits adultery, the woman he is having a affair with is actually less attractive than his wife. This happens time after time. The same goes for wife who goes out their husband. It certainly doesn't have anything to do with the size of a man's sexual organ, or the size of a womans breasts or how much weight he or she has gained since they got married. Most people who have a affair does so for companionship, which in time, leads to sex. It may start with "harmless flirting" at the office. Then one day the person comes in to work after having a big argument the night before with their wife and starts telling their "friend" at work about their problems.....and soon they are meeting after work to "discuss" their problems they are having with their husband or wife. Then soon, one thing leads to another and they have sex. Then when the husband or wife finds out about the affair, they soon get a divorce. Even if the husband or wife forgives them for the affair, most marriages never make it through it. "Pred: $20 says if you legalize prostitution the divorce rate in this country gets cut in half." So how can going out on your husband or wife "decrease" the divorce rate?? How can making prostitution legal decrease the divorce rate??
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07-22-2008, 12:56 AM
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07-22-2008, 01:19 AM
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I think it's sick !!! That women lower them selves to sell nooky !!! And Men take a chance buying it !!! I don't guess many know here that God allow's these disease's because of some's imoralness. |
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07-22-2008, 01:23 AM
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Well if people weren't going where they shouldn't be and doing something they shouldn't be doing, no one would be knocking anyone in the head now would they? lol
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07-22-2008, 01:27 AM
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They deserve to be knocked in the head for being some where there not suppose to be. When Christ returns they'll wish someone knocked some since into them LOL |
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07-22-2008, 01:56 AM
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I'm tellin' you, San Fran is just a modern day Sodom and Gamorrah. Saw the movie today and that's the spelling they had for both. lol. I had wondered if I had it right. Was wrong but was close. lol
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07-22-2008, 10:19 AM
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07-22-2008, 11:49 AM
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+1, Troy. Most of us do our best to live a good life, without infringing, or harming others. But I usually ask for forgiveness, when I talk to my Lord, in case I inadvertantly crossed the line, somewhere. I'm sure, if I asked for justice, I'd get it, and wouldn't like the end result! Amen!
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07-22-2008, 01:19 PM
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One word. Consent. The argument is very poor because of the qualitative difference between every activity you listed and child molestation. Every one of those activites can potentially be consented to by a legal adult except the kid thing. It's like saying, "If gun ownership is legal, why don't you just make murder legal too?" The two activities are qualitatively different in that one is performed without the consent of all involved. Thus, qualitatively, gay marriage, drug use (like...you know...alcohol and smokes), and prostitution are different than child molestation in the potential presence of consent. Now you can make a purely moral judgement on what you do or do not like. That's entirely your right and I'll never denounce that. But the comparison is invalid, logically. - Coeloptera | |
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