San Fran's next step: Legalized prostitution?

Marine1 · 07-20-2008, 01:15 AM

City to vote on ballot measure D.A. calls 'welcome mat for prostitutes and pimps'....

Petitioners have succeeded in moving a measure that would effectively decriminalize prostitution in the city of San Francisco to the Nov. 4 ballot.

San Fran's next step: Legalized prostitution?

nathangdad · 07-20-2008, 01:33 AM

It used to be a wonderful city. Now it is a symbol of decay.
Sad for all the good people who once lived and still live there.

This will be a message to young people that this type lifestyle is
sanctioned therefore inviting new people into the ranks. So,
there will be more of it licensed or not. Despite the verbal plans
of whores, how many actually save money for college or their
own mainstream business? How many people have come out of
whoredom or pimpdom to make a contribution to society?
How many people in prison for non-whoring crimes have been
involved in prostitution?

I believe the Bible is correct in its denounciation of whoredom.

troy2000 · 07-20-2008, 01:37 AM

Makes perfect sense to me. Legalized, regulated prostitutes and red-light districts are a lot easier to control and keep a lid on than illegal streetwalkers. Safer for the customers and the hookers both, with less crime and less exploitation.

lunchbox99 · 07-20-2008, 01:44 AM

bet they find a way to tax the $#!+ out of it

TexasT · 07-20-2008, 01:44 AM

And the government can tax their income.

toolman · 07-20-2008, 02:06 AM

Do the hookers get to take it off their income tax when a john busts 'em up? What if they get , uh.."stiffed" on a job? I'm sorry, Lord, I shouldn't have said that, please don't strike me down until I pay off my wifes' car..

wunhunglo · 07-20-2008, 03:49 AM

Let's face it, you can't stop it so you may as well legitimise it and tax it!

troy2000 · 07-20-2008, 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toolman

Do the hookers get to take it off their income tax when a john busts 'em up? What if they get , uh.."stiffed" on a job? I'm sorry, Lord, I shouldn't have said that, please don't strike me down until I pay off my wifes' car..

Well, they're a lot less likely to get busted up by a customer if they aren't hiding in the shadows somewhere away from the law...I'm not going anywhere near your other question.

GlockMeister · 07-20-2008, 04:33 AM

It's worked for Vegas and Amsterdam. San Fran is just a modern day Sodom and Gamora anyhow.

TXplt · 07-20-2008, 07:15 AM

San Fran actually coming up with a good idea for a change ?

This works in many other parts of the world, and has been around since the beginning of time.

Maybe, with the DC decision, the hookers will be packing too--that'll help keep 'em safe.

Cr@ckSH0t · 07-20-2008, 07:54 AM

Im with Troy on this one.....and its just plain 'fun' to 'meet' them hehe...

Brother Bob · 07-20-2008, 10:35 AM

Ok, that's fine. Now we can set up, yet another government agency to oversee the prostitutes health records, payroll, etc. all at the tax-payers expense! Don't you folks in California already pay high enough taxes? Ban lead bullets and legalize prostitution ......... I swear there's something in they're drinking water!

knightRider · 07-20-2008, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nathangdad

It used to be a wonderful city. Now it is a symbol of decay.
Sad for all the good people who once lived and still live there.

This will be a message to young people that this type lifestyle is
sanctioned therefore inviting new people into the ranks. So,
there will be more of it licensed or not. Despite the verbal plans
of whores, how many actually save money for college or their
own mainstream business? How many people have come out of
whoredom or pimpdom to make a contribution to society?
How many people in prison for non-whoring crimes have been
involved in prostitution?

I believe the Bible is correct in its denounciation of whoredom.

+1

billy · 07-20-2008, 10:50 AM

good idea.
i have always been a bit afraid of getting rolled when i ...i mean when a john is cruising for hookers.

GDawg · 07-20-2008, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlockMeister

It's worked for Vegas and Amsterdam. San Fran is just a modern day Sodom and Gamora anyhow.

Actually, prostitution is not legal in Las Vegas. You have to go outside of Clark County if you want to find a brothel. Not to say that there isn't prostitution in Vegas.

It's legal in Germany and controlled by the government. They get medical exams regularly and you can find some very interesting talent in the brothels.

wunhunglo · 07-20-2008, 11:14 AM

It is already Sanctioned by almost every city & town in the world, albeit unofficially so why not legalise & tax.

troy2000 · 07-20-2008, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brother Bob

Ok, that's fine. Now we can set up, yet another government agency to oversee the prostitutes health records, payroll, etc. all at the tax-payers expense! Don't you folks in California already pay high enough taxes? Ban lead bullets and legalize prostitution ......... I swear there's something in they're drinking water!

And that would cost more than what it costs to keep it illegal and deal with it as a crime? I don't think so...

Not that they've gotten anywhere close to that yet...they've just 'decriminalized' it so far.

troy2000 · 07-20-2008, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nathangdad

It used to be a wonderful city. Now it is a symbol of decay.
Sad for all the good people who once lived and still live there.
This will be a message to young people that this type lifestyle is
sanctioned therefore inviting new people into the ranks. So,
there will be more of it licensed or not. Despite the verbal plans
of whores, how many actually save money for college or their
own mainstream business? How many people have come out of
whoredom or pimpdom to make a contribution to society?
How many people in prison for non-whoring crimes have been
involved in prostitution?
I believe the Bible is correct in its denounciation of whoredom.

This whole 'message' thing gets totally out of hand. I remember back when the Texas Board of Education was demanding that textbook publishers stop any use of the word 'drug' when teaching the history of medicine, because somehow it was sending the wrong message to young people.

I believe we need to stop passing or enforcing laws based on whether not they send some kind of nebulous 'message.' The fact (or belief) that something is wrong or immoral isn't reason enough to make it a crime, and everything that's wrong can't be fixed with police, judges and jails. Nor does the simple fact that something is legal mean it's sanctioned.

Otherwise, I'd be pushing for laws to bar fat chicks from wearing tube tops and Spandex pants, on the grounds that not making it illegal sanctions their behavior...

TXplt · 07-20-2008, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brother Bob

Ok, that's fine. Now we can set up, yet another government agency to oversee the prostitutes health records, payroll, etc. all at the tax-payers expense! Don't you folks in California already pay high enough taxes? Ban lead bullets and legalize prostitution ......... I swear there's something in they're drinking water!

Doesn't have to be at the taxpayer expense, can come out of a brothel license fee. There's some justification from a market perspective for regulation--externalities and asymmetric information (wouldn't want to be "surprised" by a licensee....).

Maybe I could moonlight as an "inspector" !

Brother Bob · 07-20-2008, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TXplt

Doesn't have to be at the taxpayer expense, can come out of a brothel license fee. There's some justification from a market perspective for regulation--externalities and asymmetric information (wouldn't want to be "surprised" by a licensee....).

Maybe I could moonlight as an "inspector" !

....and who's going to handle the licenses and fees in California? The Dept. of Fish and Game?

07-20-2008, 01:15 AM	#1
Marine1 Runnin' With The Big Dogs Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 862 Images: 4	San Fran's next step: Legalized prostitution? City to vote on ballot measure D.A. calls 'welcome mat for prostitutes and pimps'.... Petitioners have succeeded in moving a measure that would effectively decriminalize prostitution in the city of San Francisco to the Nov. 4 ballot. San Fran's next step: Legalized prostitution?

07-20-2008, 01:33 AM	#2
nathangdad Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,475	Groan . . . . It used to be a wonderful city. Now it is a symbol of decay. Sad for all the good people who once lived and still live there. This will be a message to young people that this type lifestyle is sanctioned therefore inviting new people into the ranks. So, there will be more of it licensed or not. Despite the verbal plans of whores, how many actually save money for college or their own mainstream business? How many people have come out of whoredom or pimpdom to make a contribution to society? How many people in prison for non-whoring crimes have been involved in prostitution? I believe the Bible is correct in its denounciation of whoredom. Last edited by nathangdad; 07-20-2008 at 09:08 AM.

07-20-2008, 01:37 AM	#3
troy2000 Resident Armed Liberal Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern California Posts: 9,459 Images: 9	Makes perfect sense to me. Legalized, regulated prostitutes and red-light districts are a lot easier to control and keep a lid on than illegal streetwalkers. Safer for the customers and the hookers both, with less crime and less exploitation. __________________ If a million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing. -Anatole France Last edited by troy2000; 07-20-2008 at 01:41 AM.

07-20-2008, 01:44 AM	#4
lunchbox99 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: washington Posts: 471	bet they find a way to tax the $#!+ out of it __________________ I need to buy 2 of each gun so they have a friend when I am not shooting them

07-20-2008, 01:44 AM	#5
TexasT Mrs. HMFIC Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Everywhere you want to be. Posts: 4,213 Blog Entries: 16	And the government can tax their income. __________________ I'm just a little bit caught in the middle. Life is a maze. Love is a riddle.

07-20-2008, 02:06 AM	#6
toolman Mr. Fixit Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: abilene,tx Posts: 5,582 Blog Entries: 22	Do the hookers get to take it off their income tax when a john busts 'em up? What if they get , uh.."stiffed" on a job? I'm sorry, Lord, I shouldn't have said that, please don't strike me down until I pay off my wifes' car.. __________________ Don't be messin' with my gun!

07-20-2008, 03:49 AM	#7
wunhunglo Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: currently "Sunny West Africa" Posts: 1,659	Let's face it, you can't stop it so you may as well legitimise it and tax it!

07-20-2008, 04:33 AM	#9
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 5,493	It's worked for Vegas and Amsterdam. San Fran is just a modern day Sodom and Gamora anyhow. __________________ I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6!

07-20-2008, 07:15 AM	#10
TXplt Lost in the Ozone Again Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 2,832 Images: 4 Blog Entries: 2	I don't know if this is possible San Fran actually coming up with a good idea for a change ? This works in many other parts of the world, and has been around since the beginning of time. Maybe, with the DC decision, the hookers will be packing too--that'll help keep 'em safe. __________________ Old fighter pilots never die.....They just wind up in Texas

07-20-2008, 07:54 AM	#11
Cr@ckSH0t Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: I dont know, im kinda lost myself Posts: 182	Im with Troy on this one.....and its just plain 'fun' to 'meet' them hehe...

07-20-2008, 10:35 AM	#12
Brother Bob The Mayor Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Olive Branch, MS. Posts: 2,691 Blog Entries: 3	Ok, that's fine. Now we can set up, yet another government agency to oversee the prostitutes health records, payroll, etc. all at the tax-payers expense! Don't you folks in California already pay high enough taxes? Ban lead bullets and legalize prostitution ......... I swear there's something in they're drinking water! Last edited by Brother Bob; 07-20-2008 at 10:42 AM.

07-20-2008, 10:50 AM	#14
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 12,157 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 146	good idea. i have always been a bit afraid of getting rolled when i ...i mean when a john is cruising for hookers. __________________

07-20-2008, 11:14 AM	#16
wunhunglo Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: currently "Sunny West Africa" Posts: 1,659	It is already Sanctioned by almost every city & town in the world, albeit unofficially so why not legalise & tax.