I am looking for my first rifle. I want a cheap high powered rifle. I have reduced it down to a Mosin Nagant. so want do you think the best model for me would be?
Last edited by jlmiller858; 08-06-2008 at 12:16 PM.
First off, I would have to ask if you have ever fired a rifle before? O, I am not sure if you are allowed on the forums because of your age, there might be a problem there. I think you have to be 18 on here or the mods will kick you off. anyway, a mosin nagant would be a great first rifle if you already know how to shoot well in the .22 rifle class and possibly the shotgun class. I think you could probably take the impact on the shoulder but I have to warn you that the Mosin Nagant will kick a little harder than a 12 gauge shotgun. as for model, I would suggest the 91/30 because it doesn't have as much kick as the m44 or m38. also, the weight of the gun could be an issue so you could go with the m38 but you have to be prepared for the kick out of that sucker. the m44 is cool but it is heavy and has a huge kick to it as well. Again, if you have never shot a firearm before, I would strongly suggest learning on the .22 first and then getting the Mosin Nagant.
Chris
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do you know how to properly line up sight picture and did you learn about the breathing techniques and how to hold the rifle real steady in standing, crouched, and prone position? If you can do all of these and are pretty good at shooting already, i.e. hit a target at 200yds in the inner rings, then I would go with a 91/30 or an m38, possibly an m44. I would go to your local gun shop and see if they let you hold them under your parents supervision. out here, you can't even touch it if you are under 18 but your laws could be different. by the way, what do you plan on using this rifle for and how much are you planning on shooting it?
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Yes I learned all that my dad taught me a lot about that since he was in the army. I plan on using it a long range target rifle. When I say long range I mean 500 600 yards.
wow 5-600 yards is quite a shot. I don't know of anyone who can do it on iron sights but the Mosin Nagant can be outfitted with a scope and I have seen people hit targets at 830yds with it so I know it is a good shooter. tell your dad thanks from the members of Gun and Game for serving our country, we love military people on here. by the way, welcome to Gun and Game. If you are planning on shooting for that distance, go with the 91/30 and see if you can get a scope put on it. I know there are a lot of aftermarket setups for it but they are difficult to install. just let your dad help you. you will also have to either buy a bent bolt or find one with a bent bolt. I think there is a site where you can get a bent bolt for $60 and you are going to need one if you mount a scope on it. The other two models I mentioned are not as good for that distance but the 91/30 will work fine. be sure to look down that barell though to make sure the rifling is still good.
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If you have any more questions or want to know about the history of this military collectible rifle, the members on here can help a lot. I would also suggest visiting 7.62x54r.net to get all sorts of info because there were millions of 91/30's made and some of them can be really cool if they are from a certain factory or what kind of markings they have on them. also, if you can find a hex receiver instead of the round receiver, they are a little better from what I have heard. you may also be lucky and find an ex-sniper 91/30 as well. good luck and we hope you stick around and ask lots of questions and post lots of pics if you find one.
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I will post the pics of mine once i pick it up hopefully this month. I am sure I will ask more questions later will you answer this post if I do later?
First off, I would have to ask if you have ever fired a rifle before? O, I am not sure if you are allowed on the forums because of your age, there might be a problem there. I think you have to be 18 on here or the mods will kick you off. anyway, a mosin nagant would be a great first rifle if you already know how to shoot well in the .22 rifle class and possibly the shotgun class. I think you could probably take the impact on the shoulder but I have to warn you that the Mosin Nagant will kick a little harder than a 12 gauge shotgun. as for model, I would suggest the 91/30 because it doesn't have as much kick as the m44 or m38. also, the weight of the gun could be an issue so you could go with the m38 but you have to be prepared for the kick out of that sucker. the m44 is cool but it is heavy and has a huge kick to it as well. Again, if you have never shot a firearm before, I would strongly suggest learning on the .22 first and then getting the Mosin Nagant.
Chris
You have to be 18..?
Oops..
But going back to the main subject, normally like the others, I'd recommend getting a .22 first. That's what I did.
But it sounds like you've already had some experience with firearms, and this is the first one that you're buying, you said?
A Mosin isn't a bad choice at all! Just be prepared to buy another 5 within the month. They're addictive. ;] I plan on getting my second one here pretty soon...
But going back to the main subject, normally like the others, I'd recommend getting a .22 first. That's what I did.
But it sounds like you've already had some experience with firearms, and this is the first one that you're buying, you said?
A Mosin isn't a bad choice at all! Just be prepared to buy another 5 within the month. They're addictive. ;] I plan on getting my second one here pretty soon...
As a warning, however...
Be prepared for your shoulder to hurt for awhile.
I just remembered one of the mods kicking someone off of the forums for being under 18. I don't know if it was in general or if it was because the kid was trying to buy something. Whatever, if the mods don't care, neither do I.
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If you decide to buy, and scope, the 91/30 I would recommend using the dovetail hidden under the rear sight mount and then mount an 2-7 x 30 NC Star LER scout scope. That way you don't have to change the bolt, and can still load using the 5 round stripper clips.
There are a few of us here who have mounted scopes to both MN carbines and long rifles, so just ask. OR cruise the threads here for info.
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I am not buying the rifle my dad wants to buy me one so i can learn the responsiblity and for maybe hunting. Thank you for all you feedback I will take all you info into consideration. Thank you again
