Bolt action differences

Dale · 09-21-2002, 02:37 PM

Anyone know just what it is that makes a bolt action a Mauser action versus a non-Mauser styled action?

I know a lot of US guns have the commercial mauser style bolt actions but how do you differentiate between a Mauser action from one that isn't?

PAPA G · 09-21-2002, 03:30 PM

mauser actions that are based on Herr Mausers' m-98 design with some minor changes, or not, is a mauser. regardless of who made it, military or commecial. i think you are asking about difference between commercial and military actions. the military main feature is thumb cutout on the receiver wall, stripper guides on top of the rear receiver ring, three position wing saftey on bolt shroud. any one else???

Klaus · 09-21-2002, 04:03 PM

Key features would be the 2 huge locking lugs, giant claw extractor, and the cocking system.

Dale · 09-21-2002, 05:24 PM

Papa and Klaus,

thanks a lot guys...just what I was looking for.

BTW, can one assume the Mauser type of action is a sturdier or the better of bolt actions?

PAPA G · 09-21-2002, 06:15 PM

IMHO not really, depends on what caliber is intended, and ultimate use of said rifle

BattleRifleG3 · 09-21-2002, 07:50 PM

Would that describe my Savage 111? Sounds like it. Only difference between it and my friend's K98 is that my safety is on the receiver while his is on the rear of the bolt, as is his Winchester 70's.

8mm Vigilante · 09-21-2002, 09:08 PM

for all intensive purposes the mauser model 98 action is probably the best action in the world, the only one that comes close is the enfield.
Just about all the major sporting, hunting, ect. bolt actions are based of it in some manner, just look at the M1903 an exact copy of the mauser 98 action.
-Jesse

Shaun · 09-21-2002, 10:25 PM

8mm the enfield is an awesome action thats what is the base of my 375 H&H

8mm Vigilante · 09-21-2002, 10:34 PM

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Originally posted by Shaun
8mm the enfield is an awesome action thats what is the base of my 375 H&H

ohh i agree the enfield is a great action, but i don't think it's quite as good as the Mausers.
-Jesse

Shaun · 09-22-2002, 01:31 AM

Here you go Jesse

PAPA G · 09-22-2002, 11:15 AM

nice looking rifle shaun, but is the bolt handle missing??? or is it just an optical intrusion???

Shaun · 09-22-2002, 01:29 PM

Yes the bolt is out of the gun I keep them in the safe that we the bolts don't scar the wood -- I have 26 coats of hand rubbed oil on this stock and one of my others a custom Nagant is at 19 coats so I don't want to kill a finish while in storage

Big Dog · 09-23-2002, 09:52 AM

Take a look at the Ruger M77 sometime. It's very similar to the Mauser. The only major difference is the safety (tang mounted on my early Varminter).

09-21-2002, 02:37 PM	#1
Dale Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Too Dang Hot, Arizona Posts: 4,284	Bolt action differences Anyone know just what it is that makes a bolt action a Mauser action versus a non-Mauser styled action? I know a lot of US guns have the commercial mauser style bolt actions but how do you differentiate between a Mauser action from one that isn't? __________________ "It confuses me how some people can vigorously go against the 2nd. Amendment and still call themselves patriotic"-me

09-21-2002, 04:03 PM	#3
Klaus Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cypress, Texas Posts: 2,382	Key features would be the 2 huge locking lugs, giant claw extractor, and the cocking system. __________________ "Gee, Wally, Eddie Haskel's mom puts out!"

09-21-2002, 05:24 PM	#4
Dale Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Too Dang Hot, Arizona Posts: 4,284	Papa and Klaus, thanks a lot guys...just what I was looking for. BTW, can one assume the Mauser type of action is a sturdier or the better of bolt actions? __________________ "It confuses me how some people can vigorously go against the 2nd. Amendment and still call themselves patriotic"-me

09-21-2002, 07:50 PM	#6
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,453 Images: 13	Would that describe my Savage 111? Sounds like it. Only difference between it and my friend's K98 is that my safety is on the receiver while his is on the rear of the bolt, as is his Winchester 70's. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

09-21-2002, 09:08 PM	#7
8mm Vigilante Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: South of Sanity Posts: 498	for all intensive purposes the mauser model 98 action is probably the best action in the world, the only one that comes close is the enfield. Just about all the major sporting, hunting, ect. bolt actions are based of it in some manner, just look at the M1903 an exact copy of the mauser 98 action. -Jesse __________________ Never succumb to tyranny Refuse/Resist! Mauser Kar98k 7.92x57 "Retreat?, Retreat hell, we just got here!!!!"

09-21-2002, 03:30 PM	#2
PAPA G Guest Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somerset, kentucky Posts: 11	mauser actions that are based on Herr Mausers' m-98 design with some minor changes, or not, is a mauser. regardless of who made it, military or commecial. i think you are asking about difference between commercial and military actions. the military main feature is thumb cutout on the receiver wall, stripper guides on top of the rear receiver ring, three position wing saftey on bolt shroud. any one else???

09-21-2002, 06:15 PM	#5
PAPA G Guest Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somerset, kentucky Posts: 11	IMHO not really, depends on what caliber is intended, and ultimate use of said rifle

09-21-2002, 10:25 PM	#8
Shaun Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 8,619 Images: 1	8mm the enfield is an awesome action thats what is the base of my 375 H&H __________________ "Homeland Security is the responsibility of an armed citizen" ME http://webpages.charter.net/s.s.v/

09-22-2002, 01:31 AM	#10
Shaun Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 8,619 Images: 1	here is the enfield Here you go Jesse __________________ "Homeland Security is the responsibility of an armed citizen" ME http://webpages.charter.net/s.s.v/

09-22-2002, 11:15 AM	#11
PAPA G Guest Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somerset, kentucky Posts: 11	BEAUTY nice looking rifle shaun, but is the bolt handle missing??? or is it just an optical intrusion???

09-22-2002, 01:29 PM	#12
Shaun Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 8,619 Images: 1	Yes the bolt is out of the gun I keep them in the safe that we the bolts don't scar the wood -- I have 26 coats of hand rubbed oil on this stock and one of my others a custom Nagant is at 19 coats so I don't want to kill a finish while in storage __________________ "Homeland Security is the responsibility of an armed citizen" ME http://webpages.charter.net/s.s.v/

09-23-2002, 09:52 AM	#13
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,412	Take a look at the Ruger M77 sometime. It's very similar to the Mauser. The only major difference is the safety (tang mounted on my early Varminter). __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.