Well I love to get a good discussion going on here and this seems to be a good time. I have read what I thought are some good gun myths on here and who knows ?? Perhaps what I thought was a myth might be the real thing ?? So here goes I am gonna post a few "Myths" and I encourage you to post some too. Of course in a few days I will post my answers as well.
What does the A.R.in AR15 stand for ???
Why was the AR ( sorry I do not know the offical millitary designation ) such a failure in Vietnam & Korea ??
If you have a chrome bolt carrier....do you need to clean your weapon as often ??
Do you need to break in a new barrel ??
Does Obama want your guns ???
Shooters choice makes a solvent named FP-10. What was its original name and where can else can you buy it ???
Twist rates & bullet weight....does it really matter ???
Well those are just a few I am sure there are more out there but give these your best shots and lets see what we can come up with.
NOTICE I SAID NOTHING ABOUT ZOMBIES OR SWIMMING TO THE BOTTOM OF A LAKE TO HIDE GUNS !!!!!!!!!
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another question, why is my ar being black makes it so dangerous???
you said myths,, just asking.
actually i would like to know a few more answers on all weapons.
AR-15 (for Armalite model 15)
M-16 was a problem due to the type of powder used in the ammunition and improper cleaning. Was used in VN not Korean War.
Twist rates only matter if you want to shoot a heavy bullet accurately
What does "AR" mean? AR stands (or originally stood) for: Armalite Rifle. It's a slight misnomer since there were Armalite shotguns (the AR-17) and the new Armalite company produces a pistol (the AR-24).
Why the problems in Vietnam and Korea? As K75RT noted, Vietnam, not Korea and, wrong powder type combined with improper cleaning. Not Eugene Stoner's fault. He designed the direct gas impingement system to work with the originally specified powder, and never said it didn't need cleaning.
Chrome bolt carrier. Less susceptible to corrosion, but still needs to be cleaned.
Barrel break in. Yes. Barrels change every time they are fired, going through heating and cooling cycles. When new they have built in unrelieved stresses from the manufacturing processes. The more heating and cooling cycles they go through the more relaxed and stable they become. Typically you'll notice that a new rifle will settle in after the first few hundred rounds.
Obama. I don't know what his real position on guns (or most anything else) is. He seems like a very good public speaker, but doesn't' give the impression of necessarily believing what he says. A good lawyer. That said, the Democratic party platform is disturbing, as it seems to say that they will protect our right to have the guns they think are good, but will remove 'bad' ones.
you guys forgot to mention that when the m16 was first issued in veitnam no cleaning kits were issued with them and the troops were told they did not have to clean there rifles.......that did not last very long but it sure did couse problems. (i love the history channal!) later they issued the cleaning kits, and passed out little comic book type thing that had an animated pritty girl showing you how to strip and clean your "sweet 16".
Since we're talking about M-16 myths, how about the bizarre claim that it was more lethal because the bullet was designed to tumble when it left the barrel? That was a popular public misconception for a long time, I even met a few in the Army who thought so.
Last edited by Taurus Fan; 08-30-2008 at 03:28 PM.
^ i think its that it tumbles when it hits flesh not when it leaves the barrel.....
thats correct but many belive it tumbles all the way down to the target, some reporter started that back when they first came out. he reported the bullets flipped and tubled all the way to there targets
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^ i think its that it tumbles when it hits flesh not when it leaves the barrel.....
Trust me, 40 years ago, a lot of uninformed people thought it tumbled when it left the barrel, I even recall a gun writer explaining how ridiculous the notion was when a reader asked about it. When I was leaving for basic training, I had an older cousin tell me how great the M-16 was because of the "tumbling bullet".
Last edited by Taurus Fan; 08-30-2008 at 03:56 PM.
Well you got some good answers to most of your questions BUT!
To answer your question about Obama, yes he wants our guns. I got a news letter for the FOP and in that he stated he wants the reinact the Brady Bill. And that was his subdued answer. Joe Biden has been trying to get as much anti-gun legislation as he can passed the entire time he has been in congress. The Speaker if the house, Nancy Pelosi, is very anti-gun.
If Obama is elected we will have the biggest threat to our gun right we have EVER seen.
Pres. Obama
VP/Pres of the Senate Biden
Speaker of the House Pelosi
and a democratic congress.
It could not be worse for those who beleive in the Right to Keep and Bear Arms.
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Well you got some good answers to most of your questions BUT!
To answer your question about Obama, yes he wants our guns. I got a news letter for the FOP and in that he stated he wants the reinact the Brady Bill. And that was his subdued answer. Joe Biden has been trying to get as much anti-gun legislation as he can passed the entire time he has been in congress. The Speaker if the house, Nancy Pelosi, is very anti-gun.
If Obama is elected we will have the biggest threat to our gun right we have EVER seen.
Pres. Obama
VP/Pres of the Senate Biden
Speaker of the House Pelosi
and a democratic congress.
It could not be worse for those who beleive in the Right to Keep and Bear Arms.
Two great American sayings that are not said enough IMO come to mind:
"DON'T TREAD ON ME" and "YOU CAN HAVE MY GUN WHEN YOU PRY IT FROM MY COLD DEAD HAND"
In answer to your question about Obama wanting our guns, he said he wants to reinstate the Brady gun control bill. If Obama, Biden, & Pelosi could have their way individual gun ownership would become a myth.
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Since we're talking about M-16 myths, how about the bizarre claim that it was more lethal because the bullet was designed to tumble when it left the barrel? That was a popular public misconception for a long time, I even met a few in the Army who thought so.
While I realize that this is completely ridiculous and unfounded, I never heard it about the AR. I always heard it about the M1. In fact, my friends dad owns an M1 carbine and swears that the bullet "gyros" which some how makes it extremely accurate and causes a massive entry/exit wound.
The whole "tumbling bullet" thing got totally out of hand. During the Beltway Murders invetigation (they were NOT snipers!) the airhead reporters were running with that myth, when a tech advisor was discussing how a rifle bullet "spins" when it is fired - immediately the blow-dried reporter put out the word the gun was so deadly because the bullet "spun around in the air" which somehow, by her thinking, gifted it with the ability to travel thousands of yards and had whopping huge killing power, and was accurate enough to kill at a half mile!
Wish my .223 rifle could do all that......
Of course, the Brady Bunch still pushes the myth of the .50BMG rifle being able to bring down space shuttles and satellites in orbit. Sheesh.....
The whole "tumbling bullet" thing got totally out of hand. During the Beltway Murders invetigation (they were NOT snipers!) the airhead reporters were running with that myth, when a tech advisor was discussing how a rifle bullet "spins" when it is fired - immediately the blow-dried reporter put out the word the gun was so deadly because the bullet "spun around in the air" which somehow, by her thinking, gifted it with the ability to travel thousands of yards and had whopping huge killing power, and was accurate enough to kill at a half mile!
Wish my .223 rifle could do all that......
Of course, the Brady Bunch still pushes the myth of the .50BMG rifle being able to bring down space shuttles and satellites in orbit. Sheesh.....
Hmm, wonder what a .50 would do to a ufo?
Look out Elvis!
OR SWIMMING TO THE BOTTOM OF A LAKE TO HIDE GUNS !!!!!!!!!
