SUBJECT ISN'T CORRECT, IT'S A: SPRINGFIELD .22 87E SEMI-AUTO
the condition is relatively good, it's got a good bore, but the loading tube is slightly dented near end and it causes the loading rod to drag and finally stop about an inch before it would fully bottom out and close.... anyways, I have yet to find any info on this particular model, i've found 87A and 87N, but no 87E model.
Thanks guys.
"I retyped this due to me having wrong info in original post"
actually....now that i think about it....i may have gotten slightly confrused on what i was looking at....there were like 30+ .22's on the rack, most were winchester semi's and levers....gonna run into town in a couple minutes and check them out again, maybe i should write the info down this time....update in a few.
If you should find any Winchester 190's or 290's, or maybe a 490, pick one up.. I've got a 290 and a 490, and they'er great little guns. The 290 runs flawlessly, and the 490 like wise.
1)
Springfield 87E
Stevens-Savage Arms Corporation
says 'short, long, or long rifle' on barrel (someone tell me what's difference between L and LR?)
asking price: $80
2)
Ruger 10/22
.22 LR
$150
3)
Winchester 190
.22 L or LR
includes a mounted BSA 3-7x?28? (i guessed obj. lens size)
$130
4)
J.C.Higgins
Sears, Roebuck & Company
Model: 103.18
Bolt-Action, Single Shot (yucky, a bolt action single shot >.<)
says S-L-LR .22 cal
$100
5)
Winchester 250 Lever-Action
.22 S, L or LR
$130
6)
Revelation
Western Auto Supply Co.
Marlin Firearms Co.
Model 120
.22 LR
$80
I showed the prices so that people can volunteer their opinion on if they are a good value. Also sighted 2 old 38 specials, neither of which i've heard of before:
1)
RG-31 (revolver)
.38 Special
$130
2)
Arminius (revolver)
Titan Tiger
.38 Special
$100
I would personally go with the Winchester 250 lever action, but none of those sound like a bad deal to me!
Now, as far as the revolvers, I have no experience with the Rohm RG-31, BUT have heard plenty of stories of how terrible they are. I actually own an Arminius .38spl. But mine is an older model and not the Titan Tiger. Supposedly some Arminius are half decent while others are considered junk. I do like mine, but probably should have saved up another 100 bucks and got something nicer. That would be my advice to you as well. Just mt 2 pennies.
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"When a strong man, fully armed, guards his house, his possessions are safe." - Luke 11:21
1 thing i remember about the titan tiger was the action looked and felt as if it in itself was bulletproof, literally, lol. both the Rohm and the Arminius looked as if they'd been made many years ago, just from the style and aged look. The rohm tho had somewhat of a cheaper design/style than the arminius....my biggest reason i buy older guns from this shop in particular is evrything he gets he sends to a highly reputable gunsmith for inspection, dismantling, and cleaning, and if something doesnt pass, he won't sell it....and that gets around to my topic of: If it's lasted THIS long, there MUST be something keeping it working right....a gun angel? LOL
and if something doesnt pass, he won't sell it....and that gets around to my topic of: If it's lasted THIS long, there MUST be something keeping it working right....a gun angel? LOL
While I understand that thought, maybe those revolvers haven't been shot much? Like I said before, my Arminius isn't necesarily (sp) a BAD gun, it just isn't a great one either. And the money spent to get that could be held onto for a little while longer and used towards the purchase of a gun that will last a lifetime for only a bit more. Ultimately it is your choice. I am just trying to pass on my thoughts on the one that I bought. I don't regret buying it, but I do wish I would have sprung for the S&W military and police model they had at the same time for about 200 bucks or so. I will leave you with this, the DA trigger pull on my Arminius HW38 is RIDICULOUSLY heavy. It is not a smooth trigger pull all the way through by ANY means. While it has never malfunctioned, I can't say I would use it as a carry piece ever. Too heavy, the trigger ultimately SUCKS, and did I say too heavy? Not bad for plinking, but not real accurate either. Do with that info what you will and I hope you are happy with whatever decision you make. I will say again though that every time I have heard the name Rohm, it has been a very negative opinion. Oh, one more thing, I have read that many instructors do not allow a Rohm or Arminius in their classes because they classify them with other cheap Saturday night specials.
Here is a picture of mine.
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"When a strong man, fully armed, guards his house, his possessions are safe." - Luke 11:21
Also, I will eventually prolly get all of those .22's listed, except the bolt action, i dont like single shots, not for what i'll be doing at least....me and my friends like to go plinking, by standing on old county bridges and chopping down tree limbs over our various creeks/rivers....so semi-autos or lever-actions with mags is what we will mostly be using....now here's the big question....one of my buddy's lever 22's is an older model and i dont remember seeing magnum on the barrel, but the opening in the tube is same size as a mag, and he's used it to shoot mags before, it doesnt seem to hurt it any, but i dont actually know if it's setup for mags or not....it looks as if it's age is about 25-35yrs old....now here's the question: the lever Win. 250, it has the same size slot in tube as my buddy's lever....but this one does NOT say magnum on the barrel, just says 'S, L or LR'....would mags be useable in this one? or would they not load in the receiver? I made the mistake once before, before i knew anything about 22's, and loaded a maxi-mag into a semi-auto....it took almost an hour to dig out the shell, finally it came out in 2 pieces, and there was silver powder all in the action don't wanna do that again....also, mostly we shoot at ranges of between 5yds and 50yds....dont ask why we use scopes at that range LOL But if the lever can't at all use mags, then i'll probably wait till last to get it....i love levers, so i'll prolly get it for kicks....or see if my buddy will sell his....the assistant at the shop(owner was away) told me that altho the opening is like 1mm longer than a magnum round, that since it doesnt say magnum on barrel, it won't be able to use them....(altho he admits he does not know anything about guns)....so i'm stumped on that one for the time being.... Thanks for the info tho, i appreciate any i can get, and opinions are A+.
yeah, that pic is alot like this one, except the arminius badge is on the top of the grip about where your thumb knuckle touches....may i ask what age your's is?
For either one of those winchesters, the prices are pretty good. I saw a 190 without a scope going for $150 last spring. Also DON"T PUT MAGNUMS IN THOSE .22's. If it doesn't say magnum on the barrel, don't do it. Just asking for trouble!!!
that's what i kinda figured 22hustler, cuz mags in a non-mag rated receiver is like using modern day shells in an old coach gun....you run a risk, I'll have to check on what my buddy's lever is, model-wise....he's been using mags in that gun for as long as i can remember, and it doesn't say mag on the barrel, but it could be one that was made pre-mags and has enuff thickness in receiver, or something, i dunno how a mag could fit an LR rifle, unless it was made for them....but yeah, i looked the 250 Win up and it doesnt say mags are ok to use or will even fit, so i'ma not try it atleast until i get the go-ahead from someone who's done it before....or....maybe i wont, i dont like things blowing up in my face I'm still stuck on the size of loading slot tho, it's a half inch longer than one for a 22LR....that is why I won't live this topic down LOL
.22L and .22LR - same shell length, different bullet weights and powder loading. .22L is simply not found because it fell out of popularity. .22LR does everything the Long could do and more.
Shorts still have a following, but are also far less popular in general, thus the higher price for them.
.22L and .22LR - same shell length, different bullet weights and powder loading. .22L is simply not found because it fell out of popularity. .22LR does everything the Long could do and more.
Shorts still have a following, but are also far less popular in general, thus the higher price for them.
that's what i kinda figured 22hustler, cuz mags in a non-mag rated receiver is like using modern day shells in an old coach gun....you run a risk, I'll have to check on what my buddy's lever is, model-wise....he's been using mags in that gun for as long as i can remember, and it doesn't say mag on the barrel, but it could be one that was made pre-mags and has enuff thickness in receiver, or something, i dunno how a mag could fit an LR rifle, unless it was made for them....but yeah, i looked the 250 Win up and it doesnt say mags are ok to use or will even fit, so i'ma not try it atleast until i get the go-ahead from someone who's done it before....or....maybe i wont, i dont like things blowing up in my face I'm still stuck on the size of loading slot tho, it's a half inch longer than one for a 22LR....that is why I won't live this topic down LOL
The loading slot on my 290 is also very long, probaly made that way for ease of loading. Just don't put magnums in there. It wasn't made for them so don't do it. You'll just be asking for trouble, and it will come to you, if you're unlucky.. And don't forget about the innocent victim standing next to you if that thing decides it's going to puke that magnum.. I don't honestly know what will happen, but I have a good idea. And by the way, there's also a model 270 .22, which I believe was a pump. That's also a nice little gun.
that's really what i wanted to hear 22hustler, cuz i havent familiarized myself THAT much with 22's yet....i didnt grow up on small calibres, like most youth prolly did, i grew up on a 20ga bolt action Had to grow up fast lol. But now that your loading slot is as stated "alot longer", that eases my brain some, thx.
and thx big dog, i see now wut u mean between L and LR....kinda like light ball vs heavy ball right?
come to think of it, i saw a pump-action 22 with brown wood and chrome evrything else, didn't check it out, should have....i might have noticed the price first and said "HAHA" and ran away lol.
Also, what's a good brand name(or proven generic model) bolt action 22 repeater?(not single shot)
the bolt actions, well, i'm not as fast with one as a lever, but i just cant get over how cool they look....clip fed or tube fed will work, altho i only have tube feeders...lol, i'm always up to buying/trying new loading stuff. one thing i found other day was a 75rd drum for a ruger 10/22....i say NOOO....that thing's loading lips are pot metal, and they bent/cracked first load....not to mention the crazy jam session i went thru, and upon removal of clip, it dispensed all my cartridges all over the ground crazy foreign made junk.
1)
Springfield 87E
Stevens-Savage Arms Corporation
says 'short, long, or long rifle' on barrel (someone tell me what's difference between L and LR?)
asking price: $80
2)
Ruger 10/22
.22 LR
$150
3)
Winchester 190
.22 L or LR
includes a mounted BSA 3-7x?28? (i guessed obj. lens size)
$130
4)
J.C.Higgins
Sears, Roebuck & Company
Model: 103.18
Bolt-Action, Single Shot (yucky, a bolt action single shot >.<)
says S-L-LR .22 cal
$100
5)
Winchester 250 Lever-Action
.22 S, L or LR
$130
6)
Revelation
Western Auto Supply Co.
Marlin Firearms Co.
Model 120
.22 LR
$80
I showed the prices so that people can volunteer their opinion on if they are a good value. Also sighted 2 old 38 specials, neither of which i've heard of before:
1)
RG-31 (revolver)
.38 Special
$130
2)
Arminius (revolver)
Titan Tiger
.38 Special
$100
L stand for long and LR stand for Long rifle. The long is the same casing as the LR except it has less powder and a smaller bullet.
will do man....atm i put it on hold to bid on an M1 carbine on auctionarms.com....it's the one with the metal vented handguard, scoped and evrything, needs some TLC tho....i bidded up to $300 and still getting auto-outbid....someone must REALLY need it....that or they are going for alot more than $350 around where he's at
found a marlin bolt action tube fed repeater online....gotta do some bidding....only problem i got atm is i will only be able to explain about 1-2 guns a month to the female in the household, and that's with them 2-3 weeks apart....so i hope the pawn shop locally will keep the 22's in stock long enuff for me to get em....geez, my CC bill is gonna be outrageous for this month, spent $635 for 800rds of 7.62x39 non-laquered, and they're reloads....
Springfield .22 Bolt Action 
don't wanna do that again....also, mostly we shoot at ranges of between 5yds and 50yds....dont ask why we use scopes at that range LOL But if the lever can't at all use mags, then i'll probably wait till last to get it....i love levers, so i'll prolly get it for kicks....or see if my buddy will sell his....the assistant at the shop(owner was away) told me that altho the opening is like 1mm longer than a magnum round, that since it doesnt say magnum on barrel, it won't be able to use them....(altho he admits he does not know anything about guns)....so i'm stumped on that one for the time being.... Thanks for the info tho, i appreciate any i can get, and opinions are A+.
