I went shooting last night with some friends. We shot a 9 mm, two .38's, a .40, a .45 and somebody had some kind of hunting .44 that they let me shoot (booooom). Lots of fun, but I had an issue with my .40 XD(m) magazine...
I had never put a round in the chamber AND a 16-round magazine and run through the entire 17 rounds. I tried to do that last night and after the first shot the magazine was on the ground. My mouth dropped open and I stood there staring down at the magazine on the floor holding 16 rounds. I picked it up, popped it in and fired all 16, but I lost confidence at that point. My shooting buddies said I must have fat hands and hit the eject button, but I just don't know. I have noticed that when I "cram" all 16 rounds into the magazine it is hard to get it to click in place in the gun. I immediately took a round out of my "self defence" magazine (Remington Golden Sabers) and it now only has 15 rounds. However, it feels like a good solid click when I pop it in there. So...have you guys ever had an issue with your magazine falling out? What a nightmare - I can envision some killer coming in on me and that happens..."uh, hang on a moment sir while I fiddle around and pick up this magazine - I lost all my bullets, please don't kill me while I'm screwing around with this thing". So, I'm hoping you guys know of something I did wrong or can help me identify the issue. THanks in advance, B
I would get it checked to be safe, I wouldn't like it either.
Sounds like a spring issue, try a different mag and see if thats the problem.
But I would suspect its nothing you did wrong or the gun it self, probably just the mag.
Hopefully Springfield's customer service has improved and you can get your confidence back.
The "tight" fit that you are feeling when attempting to load a fully loaded mag into the pistol is normal. That is so long as when it's doing it the slide is in battery. I don't have an XDm, but I do have the XD45 and I have the same issue. What I have found is that having a full mag +1 in the chamber is just a bit too much. What's happening is that the magazine has very little give in it when all 16rds are in place, and when attempting to load the mag into the pistol, the top round is contacting the slide before the magazine is reaching the catch. Owners manual states not to force a mag into the weapon as it could cause damage. My solution for it was to simply lock the slide back, insert the fully loaded mag, and release the slide. Of course this only provides you full mag capacity rather than +1, but full mag beats a mag falling out anyday. You'll likely have better luck with what you're trying to do once the magazine springs have been broken in a bit, but until then I'd say to just go with what the mags will hold and nothing more. Also, you'll probably notice that if you do manage to get a fully loaded mag completely into the pistol with the slide closed, that charging/racking the slide is a bit more difficult and you'll notice a rub mark on the bullet that you chamber. Give it some time, it'll work itself out. They just need a little breakin in. No cause for concern. 16 rounds of .40 cal is a hell of a whallop anyway. Good luck.
The "tight" fit that you are feeling when attempting to load a fully loaded mag into the pistol is normal. That is so long as when it's doing it the slide is in battery. I don't have an XDm, but I do have the XD45 and I have the same issue. What I have found is that having a full mag +1 in the chamber is just a bit too much. What's happening is that the magazine has very little give in it when all 16rds are in place, and when attempting to load the mag into the pistol, the top round is contacting the slide before the magazine is reaching the catch. Owners manual states not to force a mag into the weapon as it could cause damage. My solution for it was to simply lock the slide back, insert the fully loaded mag, and release the slide. Of course this only provides you full mag capacity rather than +1, but full mag beats a mag falling out anyday. You'll likely have better luck with what you're trying to do once the magazine springs have been broken in a bit, but until then I'd say to just go with what the mags will hold and nothing more. Also, you'll probably notice that if you do manage to get a fully loaded mag completely into the pistol with the slide closed, that charging/racking the slide is a bit more difficult and you'll notice a rub mark on the bullet that you chamber. Give it some time, it'll work itself out. They just need a little breakin in. No cause for concern. 16 rounds of .40 cal is a hell of a whallop anyway. Good luck.
Thank you. Everything you said makes sense and I think you're right on. I sent a little e-mail to SA just to see what they say, but again, I was thinking exactly what you wrote. I'll let you know if I get a different response. Thanks again!! B
Thank you. Everything you said makes sense and I think you're right on. I sent a little e-mail to SA just to see what they say, but again, I was thinking exactly what you wrote. I'll let you know if I get a different response. Thanks again!! B
Always happy to help out. Let us know what you come up with.
Here was the response from Springfield Armory regarding the magazine. It was probably just not seated/locked in place. Later, B
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Hi Michael – Thanks for interest in Springfield. If you load one round in the chamber and then 16 in the magazine, you need to make the magazine is locked in place. You may have push hard to get it to lock, but it will work.
This happens with a variety of firearms with high capacity magazines. AR-15/M16s are notorious for this to the point that when you go to the tactical schools, they teach to give the mag a little tug when you reload to make sure it has locked into place.
After you've loaded the XD mag, just use the your thumb to swipe the edge of the floorplate as you pull the loading hand away from the mag well. If the mag isn't seated, it'll slide right back into your open palm.
put some drops of oil in the mag lock inside the grip(same side of the trigger) and press the mag release bottom to work the oil in. also depending the size of your hand and what size back plate you have in the xd-m your middle finger maybe pressing the release bottom. some time the supporting hand palm is right over the middle finger and over the mag release bottom. causing to released the mag no matter how many rounds are in the mag. when you push the mag in just do it a little harder.it may be a combination of different things. if it happen once not to worry if after you make sure every advise here is taken into and it happen with every mag every time you shoot then worry, I find out that this issue is most of the time operator mistakes.
