FOID Card Annoyances

[Packerfan2600]

Ok so today i got my letter from the Illinois State Police for my FOID card. I open up the letter to find...










NO CARD!!!!!!
Man i thought i waited 8 weeks for the thing and now i get a another form and a letter saying my picture was not received/picture requirements were not followed. Now i thought i followed the requirements EXACTLY as they were written! I have concluded that i did not put enough shoulder in ........

Have any of you guys had any problems with the FOID card process?

[Packerfan2600]

anyone?

[TXplt]

No.

Thank the good Lord we don't have to deal with buffoonery like this in TX ! (i.e. "what's a FOID card ?")

NICS and Press. Loaded pistol in car (concealed) without permit is fine. Shall issue CCW. If only we had Open Carry (and maybe Alaska-style CCW, but what we got is OK) it'd be perfect.

Sorry

[troy2000]

FOID card? I had to look that one up: Firearm Owner's Identification Card. According to the Illinois State Police website, "All Illinois residents who buy or possess firearms are required by law to have a valid FOID card."

WTF? You need a special ID in Illinois just to own a gun? And if you let it lapse with guns in your safe, you're a criminal? Even in California they've never come up with that one...

[Packerfan2600]

i know its really quite a stupid concept. I think it serves no purpose.

[GlockMeister]

Originally Posted by Packerfan2600

Ok so today i got my letter from the Illinois State Police for my FOID card. I open up the letter to find...










NO CARD!!!!!!
Man i thought i waited 8 weeks for the thing and now i get a another form and a letter saying my picture was not received/picture requirements were not followed. Now i thought i followed the requirements EXACTLY as they were written! I have concluded that i did not put enough shoulder in ........

Have any of you guys had any problems with the FOID card process?

Yes, it's an annoyance. And I don't know why they ask for a picture, they just end up using the same one on your drivers license if you have one or the picture from a state ID. I sent a picture in with my wifes and it came with her drivers license picture on it. I didn't even notice it, she did. Then I looked at mine, which I've had for a year or 2 now, and sure enough, drivers license picture. lol And I'd sent a picture in with mine also, and mine was a renewal, not a new applicant.

On the WTF, even California never came up with that. Maybe not, but for now, until it changers or or if or unless Obamination gets into office, we can own AR's with 30 round mags, pistols with more then 10 rounds. And we can own pretty much anything else as well. No list or website to go through to see if we can actually own it. Sellers on auction sites are still willing to deal with Illinois residents unlike Commiefornia. So many say they won't, and they don't even bother shipping there anymore. Bummer for you guys. Granted, some cities have their bogus rules, but, thanks to the SCOTUS decision, most are changing them.... But for the most part, I'll settle for dealing with a FOID card then living in Commiefornia.

Let's face it, each state seems to have their own rules in regards to firearms. And quite obviously, some are much better then others. I'd rank Illinois as maybe in the middle while Commiefornia is near dead last if not last...

Packerfan2600, just send in a picture and you'll have it before you know it...Bummer you have to deal with it, but in Illinois that's the way it is. Bummer in and of itself. Could be worse, you could be in Commiefornia. lol

[Zephri]

You guys need to move a little to the right and down a bit on the us map, to save yourselves from that evil card.

[paparoach429]

yea i had the same exact problem with my card. me and my dad sent our applications in at the exact same time and he got his card and they said i did not send a picture with my application and i know damn well i did.. what you guys meen to tell me you dont have foid cards where some of yous live? lol

[GlockMeister]

I want to move. But, I know what it's like to be yanked out of school and prefer not to do that to my son, especially in this day and age. So we've decided to wait until he graduates H.S. Just started/Freschman. So 4 yrs. and maybe a yr. to sell? I can only hope things don't get to bad until after then. But if it does, it does. I'll die before I hand 'em over. lol

[troy2000]

Originally Posted by paparoach429

yea i had the same exact problem with my card. me and my dad sent our applications in at the exact same time and he got his card and they said i did not send a picture with my application and i know damn well i did.. what you guys meen to tell me you dont have foid cards where some of yous live? lol

The closest thing California has to that is a Firearms Safety Card, which you get by taking a little true-false test. The gunstore clerk or owner grades your test on the spot, and hands you a card good for three years.

The only thing it's needed for is to buy a handgun. Not possess; buy. Once you own the handgun, no paperwork or ID needed. If you don't plan on buying another handgun for three years, you can throw the card away.

[FS00008]

That true Troy? I don't need to do anything but take the HSC/FSC test? Would they be able to give it at Cinco Grande? They don't stock Handguns but it'd sure be mighty convienent.

[cubbieman]

Packerfan-you should do what I did, move to alaska

P.S. Go Bears

[troy2000]

Originally Posted by FS00008

That true Troy? I don't need to do anything but take the HSC/FSC test? Would they be able to give it at Cinco Grande? They don't stock Handguns but it'd sure be mighty convienent.

I don't remember the name of the test, but yeah...all you have to do is take it. Once they hand you your card, a handgun purchase gets treated like any other. I don't know if Big 5 has the cards or not (I got mine at a pawnshop). Sometimes Big 5's priorities and procedures, and what they do or don't carry or do, leave me scratching my head. But since they're an FFL, I'm sure they can issue the cards if they want to...

The test is twenty bucks, if I remember right, and the cards are good for...oops, my mistake. Five years, not three like I said earlier. And yeah, the card is officially labeled a "Handgun Safety Certificate." I just dug mine out of the glovebox to check.

[TXplt]

Originally Posted by troy2000

The closest thing California has to that is a Firearms Safety Card, which you get by taking a little true-false test. The gunstore clerk or owner grades your test on the spot, and hands you a card good for three years.

The only thing it's needed for is to buy a handgun. Not possess; buy. Once you own the handgun, no paperwork or ID needed. If you don't plan on buying another handgun for three years, you can throw the card away.

I would think, given the SCOTUS decision, that something like this would be illegal (doesn't mean that folks won't try to do it in the interest of "public safety"). It seems exactly analogous to a Poll Tax or Voting Literacy (or knowledge) Test (if you would do to voting rights what they're doing to the RKBA).

[troy2000]

Originally Posted by TXplt

I would think, given the SCOTUS decision, that something like this would be illegal (doesn't mean that folks won't try to do it in the interest of "public safety"). It seems exactly analogous to a Poll Tax or Voting Literacy (or knowledge) Test (if you would do to voting rights what they're doing to the RKBA).

From a legal standpoint, TXplt, I would imagine it passes muster just as much as requiring a safety course before issuing a hunting license; requiring CCW's to take a course and demonstrate proficiency; or even requiring a driving test and written exam before issuing a driver's license.

It's certainly less onerous and less subject to capricious enforcement than Illinoi's FOID law, judging by what I've read in this thread.

[TXplt]

That sounds true with the FOID card; driving isn't a right protected in the constitution, though (neither is hunting, strictly speaking). Although I know people are want to trample all over the 2A without explaination, it seemed like a pretty fair analogy with voting rights--one could easily argue an ignorant voter is "unsafe." (and this, along with poll taxes, was used to restrict people from voting last century). A permit or test required to exercise a right guaranteed by the constitution legally seems to be quite a foul to me though (I know that constitutional rights mean little sometimes to folks who write laws in practice).

[magicjeep]

Up here in the people's republic of NJ you need a firearms ID card and a hand gun permit to purchase a pistol. You can purchase as many long guns as you want once you have a FID but you need a permit for each pistol (1 pistol/1permit 5 pistols/5 permits) and now some state politician is trying to limit handgun purchases to 1 per month. Every 6 months you have to submit a mental health check if your applying for a FID/Handgun permit. A FID is $5 + fingerprint fees ($65 I think) + mental health check ($25) = $95 + $2 per hand gun permit. Than it takes 30 days to get the FID/permits. Some towns jerk people around and take longer, which is illegal a decision has to be made in 30 days. This all has to be done through your local PD. Oh yeah I almost forgot the handgun permit is only good for 90 days, than you have to reapply.

[Cyrano]

Well, there are places whose gun owners have it worse than the Peoples Democratic Republic of New York. Who'da thunk it? We have lots of asinine restrictions, but the legislature never went as far as a FOID card before you can even own a gun of any kind!

The only restriction on longarms are you have to be over 18 and able to pass a NICS check. Pistols are tougher. You have to be 21 or older and jump through lots of hoops to get your pistol permit, which you have to have before you can legally own a pistol. In my county, pistol permits are good for life; other counties have different rules.

And when you buy one, you have to jump through more hoops to get it added onto your pistol permit. The process takes at least a week and involves taking a day off work to put in the application and another to pick up the coupon authorizing the seller to hand over the pistol. The County Clerk handles all that and works 9 to 5 weekdays; no weekend hours. This is pretty suckola, but not as bad as New Jersey and Illinois.

Oh yeah: Illinois is Obama-land. This is the sort of nonsense we'll all have to look forward to if that jackass gets elected by the scuttlefish and sheeple. Remember, he has a known antipathy to armed citizens.

[Deersniper]

I'll never go to NJ. That is ridiculous.

[larmus]

you all need to move to arizona or one of the other open carry states. that will solve most all these issues. no permits, no cards, no waiting time. go in pick out handgun, fill out paperwork, buy extra clips and ammo, take gun and extras home. its as simple as that.