Sons-in-Law: Bullwipe, Taser, or Good Swift Kick?

MrsS · 09-17-2008, 08:14 AM

Giver your daughter the bullwhip! If I were her, I'd sure use it!

Seriously, windwalker has given good advice! Safety for your daughter and grandchild come first....family support is next.
You & your daughter have to take it one day & one task at a time. Good Luck!

meatloaf · 09-17-2008, 03:50 PM

DIVORCE! He apparently isnt the man your daughter married so its based on a lie. Also if your daughter Knew this type of behavior was possable then she isnt blameless. Sorry to say that but I think its true. A snake is a snake and will never be anything but. Make sure your grand daughter gets an education that is top notch or she will most likely be financialy ruined for her life. Education doesnt gaurantee anything but it does help the odds cconsiderably.

HEMI · 09-17-2008, 09:35 PM

Love makes people stay in horrible situations, you have a tuff road ahead.

stalebiscuit · 09-17-2008, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RedneckCatholic

What did he do?

Well, he was arrested last night, and at the arraignment today pled guilty: Armed Robbery and Assault.

Him and his dumb*ss brother tried to rob a drug dealer--with a pellet gun, of all things. The drug dealer and his buddies beat the living heck out of the dumb*ss brother, and the SIL ran.

So, we got being a criminal thug--and no, good boys don't get led astray--you do something like that you're a thug. We got being stupid enough to get an armed robbery charge while "armed" with a pellet gun. We got running out on your own kin.

Then we got the hell he's putting my daughter through, the fact that his daughter, my granddaughter, is now four times as likely--statistically--to be poor, to be a pregnant teen, to get arrested, to basically have s crappy life than she was yesterday afternoon. and we have the distinct possibility of angry drug dealers coming to our house to settle.

So, yeah, I like the suggestion of kicking him, then using the taser to soften him up for the bull whip!

wow....thats just, oh wow that sucks

i.......am speechless....for once

RedneckCatholic · 09-17-2008, 10:45 PM

Here's an update: His Mommy got him a lawyer. The lawyer is confident that he can get him a five year sentence, instead of a fifteen year sentence.

Either way--it'll be a while before I have to look at the disgusting creature again.

katibangbang · 09-18-2008, 09:07 PM

I'd say put a set tazer on the end of the bullwhip and use it that way.

troy2000 · 09-18-2008, 11:59 PM

Damn, that's hard. I've been lucky, I guess. The worst that's happened to us is that my wife let one of our foster daughters and her boyfriend move into my motor home when they hit hard times, and it quickly became obvious he was the reason they weren't making it. A stupid, opinionated, obnoxious, thieving tweeker. My wife's only real personal indulgence is jewelry, and several thousand dollars worth disappeared while they were with us.

The foster daughter is like a lot of other young women I've seen: not really a bad person on her own, but with incredibly bad taste in men and a totally misplaced loyalty to them, instead of to the people who actually care about her. It's the sort of stand-by-your-man loyalty that would be admirable, if she weren't cleaving to a POS scumbag instead of a decent guy.

mdj696 · 09-19-2008, 01:43 AM

I've run into a number of relationships (bad) where drug/alcohol related. My best advise to them is that he/she fell in love with drugs/alcohol long before they were in love with them. Only the addicted can do anything about their addiction. In the armed forces and being convicted of a felony? Maybe National Guard is handled different than active duty. Arrested a burglar one night in drug store burglary. From back seat he said "Officer, I'm on leave from the Navy, do you think the Navy is going to find out about this" ? I asked him if the word Levenworth meant anything to him. We're talking legal double jeopardy here folks. You have to do military time, dishonorable discharge and then do civilian time. Suicide is one option. Early 70s MPs would pick someone up from jail, these people were not happy campers with their prisoner. Maybe times have changed, I would like to think not. I would get the daughter a book called Codependent No More and sit down with her and read it together. I don't even listen to "But you don't understand, I'm in love with him BS. These young people have no idea what love is. Maybe I missed my calling to be a D.I., just a cop with a D.I. attitude.

jimkim · 09-19-2008, 09:54 AM

This is sort of unrelated but it gets back to the same overall theme, just plain being sorry as hell! Yesterday afternoon I was in my computer room and heard something hitting the side of the house. I went out to see what the noise was. The crack-whore my son married was in their yard next door pointing a pellet rifle at the goats behind the house. As I stepped out the door I heard the boy that was with her(not my son he was at work) say "She sure cant hit anything hahaha especially that can". Well I bit my tongue and went on to the back and fed the animals. I looked at the house, but didn't see any holes at that time, by the way, WHAT CAN there was no can. Fast forward to this morning. I got up a little before 0600 and fed the cat and took out the trash. While in the yard I saw them. Two holes in the vinyl siding and one hole in a window. So much for civility. I lost it I went and got my son out of bed and asked him "WTF is this sh*t?" "Do you want a place to live" "Why does that b*tch your married to do Sh*t like this" Jame said, "Oh Casey said you probably thought she was shooting at the goats yesterday." I asked him "Who the hell said any damned thing about goats?" That, by the way, answered the question about what she was shooting at. Before you ask I didn't crawl her ass because I don't need a murder charge. I want to charge the boy she blamed it on(oh yeah I forgot to add that part) with vandalism. I have decided to ask my third cousin the Sheriff to send deputies to patrol our house. I think I'll start grilling out for them too. I figure with the added presence of law enforcement the doping that goes on around here might just die down a little. I am having a hard time adjusting to them living next door. I love my son, but I don't know how much more I can take. He is the only one working he works all the time. He is pissing his life away(he quit school, he had a partial academic scholarship and grant school was free) and there isn't anything I can do about it. I am at a loss for words to express this feeling. If it weren't for my faith I don't know if I could go on.

Seabeescotty · 09-19-2008, 10:26 AM

I feel for you fellas, going thru all this crap with your kids. If it was me, I'd prob'ly be in jail. I lucked out, in the best way, and ended up with kids who know right from wrong, and chose the right road. I pray for my kids, and for goos lives for them. My prayers have been heard, because all my children are successful.

If the prayers and counciling don't help, a swift kick, and advice to take it elsewhere, is a good option. Sometimes, tough love istheonly way to keep your own sanity.

Wish I had a better answer. Scotty

09-17-2008, 08:14 AM	#41
MrsS Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: 16th state. Posts: 1,804	Giver your daughter the bullwhip! If I were her, I'd sure use it! Seriously, windwalker has given good advice! Safety for your daughter and grandchild come first....family support is next. You & your daughter have to take it one day & one task at a time. Good Luck! __________________ "For unto you is born this day in the city of David a savior, which is Christ the LORD." Luke 2:11

09-17-2008, 10:45 PM	#45
RedneckCatholic Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: New Albania, the Ohio Valley Posts: 255	Here's an update: His Mommy got him a lawyer. The lawyer is confident that he can get him a five year sentence, instead of a fifteen year sentence. Either way--it'll be a while before I have to look at the disgusting creature again. __________________ Yes it's little. Yes it's loaded. No, I don't like you.

09-18-2008, 11:59 PM	#47
troy2000 Resident Armed Liberal Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern California Posts: 10,017 Images: 9	Damn, that's hard. I've been lucky, I guess. The worst that's happened to us is that my wife let one of our foster daughters and her boyfriend move into my motor home when they hit hard times, and it quickly became obvious he was the reason they weren't making it. A stupid, opinionated, obnoxious, thieving tweeker. My wife's only real personal indulgence is jewelry, and several thousand dollars worth disappeared while they were with us. The foster daughter is like a lot of other young women I've seen: not really a bad person on her own, but with incredibly bad taste in men and a totally misplaced loyalty to them, instead of to the people who actually care about her. It's the sort of stand-by-your-man loyalty that would be admirable, if she weren't cleaving to a POS scumbag instead of a decent guy. __________________ I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting you really believe what you just said. WF Buckley, Jr Last edited by troy2000; 09-19-2008 at 12:02 AM.

09-19-2008, 01:43 AM	#48
mdj696 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 297 Images: 1	I've run into a number of relationships (bad) where drug/alcohol related. My best advise to them is that he/she fell in love with drugs/alcohol long before they were in love with them. Only the addicted can do anything about their addiction. In the armed forces and being convicted of a felony? Maybe National Guard is handled different than active duty. Arrested a burglar one night in drug store burglary. From back seat he said "Officer, I'm on leave from the Navy, do you think the Navy is going to find out about this" ? I asked him if the word Levenworth meant anything to him. We're talking legal double jeopardy here folks. You have to do military time, dishonorable discharge and then do civilian time. Suicide is one option. Early 70s MPs would pick someone up from jail, these people were not happy campers with their prisoner. Maybe times have changed, I would like to think not. I would get the daughter a book called Codependent No More and sit down with her and read it together. I don't even listen to "But you don't understand, I'm in love with him BS. These young people have no idea what love is. Maybe I missed my calling to be a D.I., just a cop with a D.I. attitude. Last edited by mdj696; 09-19-2008 at 01:52 AM. Reason: Add info

09-19-2008, 09:54 AM	#49
jimkim Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Near the Little Ocmulgee river in GA Posts: 2,291 Blog Entries: 15	This is sort of unrelated but it gets back to the same overall theme, just plain being sorry as hell! Yesterday afternoon I was in my computer room and heard something hitting the side of the house. I went out to see what the noise was. The crack-whore my son married was in their yard next door pointing a pellet rifle at the goats behind the house. As I stepped out the door I heard the boy that was with her(not my son he was at work) say "She sure cant hit anything hahaha especially that can". Well I bit my tongue and went on to the back and fed the animals. I looked at the house, but didn't see any holes at that time, by the way, WHAT CAN there was no can. Fast forward to this morning. I got up a little before 0600 and fed the cat and took out the trash. While in the yard I saw them. Two holes in the vinyl siding and one hole in a window. So much for civility. I lost it I went and got my son out of bed and asked him "WTF is this sht?" "Do you want a place to live" "Why does that btch your married to do Sh*t like this" Jame said, "Oh Casey said you probably thought she was shooting at the goats yesterday." I asked him "Who the hell said any damned thing about goats?" That, by the way, answered the question about what she was shooting at. Before you ask I didn't crawl her ass because I don't need a murder charge. I want to charge the boy she blamed it on(oh yeah I forgot to add that part) with vandalism. I have decided to ask my third cousin the Sheriff to send deputies to patrol our house. I think I'll start grilling out for them too. I figure with the added presence of law enforcement the doping that goes on around here might just die down a little. I am having a hard time adjusting to them living next door. I love my son, but I don't know how much more I can take. He is the only one working he works all the time. He is pissing his life away(he quit school, he had a partial academic scholarship and grant school was free) and there isn't anything I can do about it. I am at a loss for words to express this feeling. If it weren't for my faith I don't know if I could go on. __________________ "Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum."

09-17-2008, 03:50 PM	#42
meatloaf Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: lakewood CO Posts: 956 Images: 3	DIVORCE! He apparently isnt the man your daughter married so its based on a lie. Also if your daughter Knew this type of behavior was possable then she isnt blameless. Sorry to say that but I think its true. A snake is a snake and will never be anything but. Make sure your grand daughter gets an education that is top notch or she will most likely be financialy ruined for her life. Education doesnt gaurantee anything but it does help the odds cconsiderably.

09-17-2008, 09:35 PM	#43
HEMI Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 828	Love makes people stay in horrible situations, you have a tuff road ahead.

09-18-2008, 09:07 PM	#46
katibangbang Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 4	I'd say put a set tazer on the end of the bullwhip and use it that way.

09-19-2008, 10:26 AM	#50
Seabeescotty The ol' Coot Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Jay, Oklahoma, God's country. Posts: 4,567 Images: 18 Blog Entries: 1	I feel for you fellas, going thru all this crap with your kids. If it was me, I'd prob'ly be in jail. I lucked out, in the best way, and ended up with kids who know right from wrong, and chose the right road. I pray for my kids, and for goos lives for them. My prayers have been heard, because all my children are successful. If the prayers and counciling don't help, a swift kick, and advice to take it elsewhere, is a good option. Sometimes, tough love istheonly way to keep your own sanity. Wish I had a better answer. Scotty __________________ Adapt, improvise, overcome.-Gysgt Highway, Heartbreak Ridge