Pakistan army ordered to fire on U.S. troops

[Windwalker]

This must be stopped now before it escalates farther. Pakistan has a right to defend their borders and we need them on our side. They are well equipped fighting men and experienced mountain fighters.The U.S. has furnished the Pakistan Military between 6 Billion and 10 Billion in foreign aid since the 9-11 attacks here according to the Joint Chiefs.
Wunhunglo expressed it very well. Respect their borders.

[Coeloptera]

Originally Posted by wunhunglo

Only one country has ever used nukes..........twice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Technically they were atomic fission-fusion bombs.

- Coeloptera

[wunhunglo]

Yeah, technically, but to most of us they were "NUKES"!

[YankeeSpirit76]

Originally Posted by Brother Bob

Only a madman would loose nukes on anyone. They are the weapon of last resort or an ace in the hole, if you will. Only a madman would leash out with that type of firepower! All more the reason that we should keep the Middle East out of the nuclear business........

If history has shown us anything Bob, it is, there is never a lack of madmen in charge somewhere.

[YankeeSpirit76]

Originally Posted by wunhunglo

Only one country has ever used nukes..........twice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quite justified I might add. If you want to sneak attack us and start a war that killed thousands upon thousands of our men, then be prepared for whatever comes to you!

[nathangdad]

Pakistan has a right to defend it's border. The other side of that coin is they have a right to let in who they want and let us get real - they let Osama and company into the country doing nothing on day one when Osama and company had nothing but tired feet from running.


Bhutto's husband is now president. He has a really questionable past when it comes to money under the table for special tasks/favors which is exactly what Osama and company can provide. Also, he did not make deals with America on participating in the so called war on terror.

It is a new day in Pakistan. We need to dump the foreign policy view of Pakistan as an ally taking a totally fresh view of the situation as it now exists and is evolving.

[YankeeSpirit76]

Nathan,
Agreed, but we need to go a lot farther than just Pakistan being reviewed as an ally. Pakistan is a good place to start, but I think there's more than a few "allies" we need to look at. Seems like most of them are only our "allies" when someone invades them.

[wunhunglo]

There has been another attack by an american drone against a terrorist target just inside the Pakistan border. The news states that the attack was a result of shared intelligence between Pakistani & American forces! So what is really happening?

[meatloaf]

Originally Posted by nathangdad

Pakistan has a right to defend it's border. The other side of that coin is they have a right to let in who they want and let us get real - they let Osama and company into the country doing nothing on day one when Osama and company had nothing but tired feet from running.


Bhutto's husband is now president. He has a really questionable past when it comes to money under the table for special tasks/favors which is exactly what Osama and company can provide. Also, he did not make deals with America on participating in the so called war on terror.

It is a new day in Pakistan. We need to dump the foreign policy view of Pakistan as an ally taking a totally fresh view of the situation as it now exists and is evolving.

I think your wrong. Its much easier to conqure by saying we are freinds while I cut your throat. Thats our policy. Dont be fooled for a second our nation is just as evil as the next in reality. We are warriors and we take what we want. Now for the beleifs of the individual soldiers yes everyone wants only to be good and rightous. I beleive our fighting force generaly beleives they are doing deeds to further good. On the other hand does it realy matter when the governing powers feed both sides of the conflict? What the hell am I saying you ask? Im not talking about our facade goverment Im talking about our real owners the Federal Reserve. Banking decides what happens in the world and Banking loans money to both sides at the same time with intrest of course. War is the most profitable buisness to Banking.

[Coeloptera]

Originally Posted by meatloaf

I think your wrong. Its much easier to conqure by saying we are freinds while I cut your throat. Thats our policy. Dont be fooled for a second our nation is just as evil as the next in reality. We are warriors and we take what we want.

I think you're exaggerating a bit.

We're far from angels, but we have managed to refrain from the large excesses that we are capable of. We have yet to actually invade another country for the purposes of conquest, and we have been more than capable.

We've meddled for our own best interests, we've had proxy wars against enemies, but we still have a better track record than say...China, for instance.

I think in this case, we've pushed about as far as other nations are willing to take. We are not incapable of showing some deference, we just usually choose not to.

- Coeloptera

[nathangdad]

I am totally with you believing the McCain-Palin administration should
take a totally painful yet fresh assessment of where we stand with a large number of countries in the world.

Many countries (especially third world) have experienced such a turnover of administrative and political leadership they are what they were only in the sense of country name and geographic borders.