Aaaaaaaaand score one for freedom.

Coeloptera · 09-17-2008, 02:49 PM

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Sagging pants law declared unconstitutional in Florida.

"Circuit Judge Paul Moyle ruled that the law was unconstitutional based on limited facts. However, the charge hasn't been dropped yet and a new arraignment is set for Oct. 5."

How can we have a new arraignment then? I am unfamiliar with how that works.

Kid wasn't even showing any skin, just boxers. This'll hopefully be crushed and we can forget about it and move on.

It's not illegal to look stupid, otherwise guys with ball caps with little stuffed, bikini-clad boobs on them would be rounded up and put in camps.

- Coeloptera

RedneckCatholic · 09-17-2008, 05:00 PM

We seem to do this a lot--pick on an insignificant detail, rather than the crime.

So--gang-bangers wear really baggy pant's low on their butts. I know! we'll solve the problem by banning baggy pants low on the butt!

That's instead of rounding up the Gang-bangers, and doing something really unpleasant to them, when ever the gangs break out the stooopid.

In the 1930s, Deleware resurrected the whipping post to deal with petty crime and gangs. The supreme court upheld it. We could do that again, and solve many, many problems.

Instead, we arrest people for poor fashion choices.

Did you hear about the hispanic girl in Michigan who has been disciplined by her school for wearing a rosary around her neck? I realize that N. European Catholics don't do that--but it's far from a universal practice not to. The school decided it was gang related jewelry. Her Mom gave it to her.

I think this stuff is 'cause people in authority don't have the cajones to deal with the real problems.

YankeeSpirit76 · 09-17-2008, 05:27 PM

Nobody hates those baggy pants more than me, but, as long as their butts aren't hanging out, I'll be gd'ed if If I would obey any law telling me what I can wear.
What's next, a new part of homeland security? We can call it " wardrobe and fashion police".

Windwalker · 09-17-2008, 08:10 PM

Or we could get someone with enough cajones to abolish Homeland Security, BATF, DEA, Federal Reserve, and IRS.

billy · 09-17-2008, 08:18 PM

if being stupid lookin is a crime...
i should be a lifer!

toolman · 09-17-2008, 08:33 PM

They should fine the parents instead. BTW, if it's legal for them to wear their pants hanging off their butts, it should be legal for me to yank'em down when they walk around in the mall.

Rave · 09-17-2008, 09:49 PM

At least the bastids can't run when the cops get after them.

stalebiscuit · 09-17-2008, 09:59 PM

it saddens me that people dress this bad to where we need laws against this

Blackrock · 09-17-2008, 10:14 PM

It's not about poor taste or bad fashion an much as it is about the FREEDOM to be stupid. Gack!! back in the 60's and me with long hair and tie dyed T shirt and water walkers (sandals).

Move over Billy, make room for me.

In Muslim counties they probably cut yer head off for wrapping your towel around your head the wrong way.

gak906 · 09-18-2008, 04:17 AM

I agree it's a completely pointless law that serves no real purpose , other than PC to stop them. But somehow i don't think I want to go to court and explain that i found cocaine and a gun on this guy, and then the defense asks why I stopped his client to begin with and i say " his pants were falling down " i don't think that will stand up to scrutiny. I was , since i became a cop, and still is My goal to keep my name off of ANY supreme court decisions.

Dookiebutt · 09-18-2008, 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rave

At least the bastids can't run when the cops get after them.

Wanna bet?

Big Dog · 09-18-2008, 07:56 AM

Sorry, I'm on the other side of this.....

They oughta be hit with a hefty fine for "Public Indecency".

Same as fat broads wearing spandex in public. Some things just shouldn't be allowed.

Now, a young hottie showing some whaletail - THAT I will allow......

YankeeSpirit76 · 09-18-2008, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billy

if being stupid lookin is a crime...
i should be a lifer!

They're coming for you Billy..lol.

Seabeescotty · 09-18-2008, 09:36 AM

Billy, we gonna have fun at the lockup. There's a bunch of us who don't much care how we look, as long as our stuff is covered. Count me in on the no fashion crowd!

bayman1975 · 09-18-2008, 12:52 PM

Quote:

It's not illegal to look stupid, otherwise guys with ball caps with little stuffed, bikini-clad boobs on them would be rounded up and put in camps.

What's wrong with ball caps with little stuffed, bikini-clad boobs on them?

YankeeSpirit76 · 09-18-2008, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gak906

I agree it's a completely pointless law that serves no real purpose , other than PC to stop them. But somehow i don't think I want to go to court and explain that i found cocaine and a gun on this guy, and then the defense asks why I stopped his client to begin with and i say " his pants were falling down " i don't think that will stand up to scrutiny. I was , since i became a cop, and still is My goal to keep my name off of ANY supreme court decisions.

I don't think that baggy pants would be seen by too many judges as probable cause..lol. But thank you for your service as a police officer.
That makes you one of my hero's, as do all that put on the uniform of a police officer or military.

Coeloptera · 09-18-2008, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Dog

Sorry, I'm on the other side of this.....

They oughta be hit with a hefty fine for "Public Indecency".

Same as fat broads wearing spandex in public. Some things just shouldn't be allowed.

Now, a young hottie showing some whaletail - THAT I will allow......

Ah...but the thing is, if they have boxers beneath, no skin shows, ergo, no indecency. That's the big problem with this law. It arbitrarily picked a style (lots of dumb ones) and declared it illegal based on no merits such as indecency laws.

I swear, it's like declaring leather jackets and ducktails illegal in the 50s.

Do I really have to answer that, bayman1975?

- Coeloptera

charmincarmens · 09-18-2008, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stalebiscuit

it saddens me that people dress this bad to where we need laws against this

Does it bother you much when you see women with their bras showing outside of their clothing and their boobs are hanging out ? Not me.

09-17-2008, 02:49 PM	#1
Coeloptera Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 2,144	Aaaaaaaaand score one for freedom. NewsTalk 1530 KFBK \| Coverage You Can Count On Sagging pants law declared unconstitutional in Florida. "Circuit Judge Paul Moyle ruled that the law was unconstitutional based on limited facts. However, the charge hasn't been dropped yet and a new arraignment is set for Oct. 5." How can we have a new arraignment then? I am unfamiliar with how that works. Kid wasn't even showing any skin, just boxers. This'll hopefully be crushed and we can forget about it and move on. It's not illegal to look stupid, otherwise guys with ball caps with little stuffed, bikini-clad boobs on them would be rounded up and put in camps. - Coeloptera

09-17-2008, 05:00 PM	#2
RedneckCatholic Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: New Albania, the Ohio Valley Posts: 255	We seem to do this a lot--pick on an insignificant detail, rather than the crime. So--gang-bangers wear really baggy pant's low on their butts. I know! we'll solve the problem by banning baggy pants low on the butt! That's instead of rounding up the Gang-bangers, and doing something really unpleasant to them, when ever the gangs break out the stooopid. In the 1930s, Deleware resurrected the whipping post to deal with petty crime and gangs. The supreme court upheld it. We could do that again, and solve many, many problems. Instead, we arrest people for poor fashion choices. Did you hear about the hispanic girl in Michigan who has been disciplined by her school for wearing a rosary around her neck? I realize that N. European Catholics don't do that--but it's far from a universal practice not to. The school decided it was gang related jewelry. Her Mom gave it to her. I think this stuff is 'cause people in authority don't have the cajones to deal with the real problems. __________________ Yes it's little. Yes it's loaded. No, I don't like you.

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billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 14,254 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 154	if being stupid lookin is a crime... i should be a lifer! __________________ "I would never die for my beliefs because what if I'm wrong?"- Bertrand Russell

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toolman Mr. Fixit Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: abilene,tx Posts: 5,852 Blog Entries: 24	They should fine the parents instead. BTW, if it's legal for them to wear their pants hanging off their butts, it should be legal for me to yank'em down when they walk around in the mall. __________________ cosmoline is an aphrodisiac!

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YankeeSpirit76 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Cranston, Rhode Island Posts: 628	Nobody hates those baggy pants more than me, but, as long as their butts aren't hanging out, I'll be gd'ed if If I would obey any law telling me what I can wear. What's next, a new part of homeland security? We can call it " wardrobe and fashion police".

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Rave Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 7,048	At least the bastids can't run when the cops get after them. __________________ USAF '62-'66 .

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Blackrock Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SE Arizona's Gila Valley Posts: 382	It's not about poor taste or bad fashion an much as it is about the FREEDOM to be stupid. Gack!! back in the 60's and me with long hair and tie dyed T shirt and water walkers (sandals). Move over Billy, make room for me. In Muslim counties they probably cut yer head off for wrapping your towel around your head the wrong way. __________________ "I only use my gun whenever kindness fails" Forbidden fruits create many jams

09-18-2008, 04:17 AM	#10
gak906 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Georgia Posts: 125	I agree it's a completely pointless law that serves no real purpose , other than PC to stop them. But somehow i don't think I want to go to court and explain that i found cocaine and a gun on this guy, and then the defense asks why I stopped his client to begin with and i say " his pants were falling down " i don't think that will stand up to scrutiny. I was , since i became a cop, and still is My goal to keep my name off of ANY supreme court decisions.

09-18-2008, 07:56 AM	#12
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,412	Sorry, I'm on the other side of this..... They oughta be hit with a hefty fine for "Public Indecency". Same as fat broads wearing spandex in public. Some things just shouldn't be allowed. Now, a young hottie showing some whaletail - THAT I will allow...... __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

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Seabeescotty The ol' Coot Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Jay, Oklahoma, God's country. Posts: 4,567 Images: 18 Blog Entries: 1	Billy, we gonna have fun at the lockup. There's a bunch of us who don't much care how we look, as long as our stuff is covered. Count me in on the no fashion crowd! __________________ Adapt, improvise, overcome.-Gysgt Highway, Heartbreak Ridge