Ship Seized by Somali Pirates Carrying 33 Russian Tanks

LarryO1970 · 09-26-2008, 03:09 PM

FOXNews.com - Ship Seized by Somali Pirates Carrying 33 Russian Tanks - International News | News of the World | Middle East News | Europe News

GAR!!! ... de Somali Pirates er done fer makie a mistakie now !
(I know... not Pirate Day anymore)

Okay... my personal speculation here: I wonder if that was put out with full-knowledge it would be attacked by Pirates to justify another reason for Russia to get involved in the area?

Coelptera, your thoughts?

just_a_car · 09-26-2008, 04:21 PM

The pirates in the Somali waters have been active for many, many years. I've seen some TV shows where they feature situations such as Somali pirates attacking and boarding a cruise ship. I think on Futureweapons, they were showing off a sound device that's installed on some ships now to deter pirates.

I'll bet they just saw that ship as another target of opportunity and were fortunate enough to get a hold of a bunch of military equipment.

Now... my big question is, why did Russia have 33 tanks in that area?

LarryO1970 · 09-26-2008, 04:25 PM

I'm not so sure that is a fortunate grab ... as the Russians are pretty ticked off over it.

Mad Hatter · 09-26-2008, 04:27 PM

Hopefully the Russians come find their tanks and take out some pirates !!

GlockMeister · 09-26-2008, 04:28 PM

Just another sign , the 33 tanks and or other military equipment, were on a ship heading where, that something is coming?

LarryO1970 · 09-26-2008, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by GlockMeister

Just another sign , the 33 tanks and or other military equipment, were on a ship heading where, that something is coming?

Apparently, they were purchased by Sudan (what a shocker, huh?)

... and Hatter... I do believe they will receive an ultimatum, give everything back, NOW ... or face the consequences of a military kind.

Rambo · 09-26-2008, 04:31 PM

Now they gotta go kidnap some Russian tank crews to run the things for them. Otherwise, they'll just sit somewhere and rust.
On another note, why is anyone operating in these waters without some kind of weapons-type defense?

YankeeSpirit76 · 09-26-2008, 04:33 PM

It said they sold them to Kenya. Seems funny though that the ruskies, KNOWING that those waters are filled with pirates would send 33 tanks without at least a couple of warships to escort it. HMMM

LarryO1970 · 09-26-2008, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rambo

Now they gotta go kidnap some Russian tank crews to run the things for them. Otherwise, they'll just sit somewhere and rust.
On another note, why is anyone operating in these waters without some kind of weapons-type defense?

I agree... wouldn't it be funny to put a ship out there... looking all kinds of vulnerable... and when the pirates attack, it drops "camouflage" to reveal naval weaponry, SEALS and other nasties of the sea ?!

I'd laugh my a*s off ...

LarryO1970 · 09-26-2008, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by YankeeSpirit76

It said they sold them to Kenya. Seems funny though that the ruskies, KNOWING that those waters are filled with pirates would send 33 tanks without at least a couple of warships to escort it. HMMM

JUSTIFICATION - JUSTIFICATION - JUSTIFICATION ...

RockB · 09-26-2008, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by YankeeSpirit76

It said they sold them to Kenya. Seems funny though that the ruskies, KNOWING that those waters are filled with pirates would send 33 tanks without at least a couple of warships to escort it. HMMM

All depends on when ownership transfers. If ownership transfers upon their departure from Russia then Russia has already been paid. Why should they care.

LarryO1970 · 09-26-2008, 04:42 PM

You have a good point RockB ... although, they are steaming a warship to the Somali coast for "muscle" ...

YankeeSpirit76 · 09-26-2008, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RockB

All depends on when ownership transfers. If ownership transfers upon their departure from Russia then Russia has already been paid. Why should they care.

Good point Rock, but I would think whoever bought them would have made it part of the deal that Russia make sure they are delivered to point of destination since they obviously were unable to. I know I would.

troy2000 · 09-26-2008, 04:46 PM

The Somali pirates are probably feeling like Redford and his partner in the beginning of the movie, 'The Sting.' Like, "uh-oh...what have we done?"

YankeeSpirit76 · 09-26-2008, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by troy2000

The Somali pirates are probably feeling like Redford and his partner in the beginning of the movie, 'The Sting.' Like, "uh-oh...what have we done?"

Bet their pants are brown too...

larmus · 09-26-2008, 04:49 PM

according to the news article they were bound for kenya as a rearmement for their military. looks like they went all the way around africa inorder to avoid somolia altogther, but ended up getting caught anyways. they also stated that the pirates would have a hard time unloading these tanks and ammo on to others. all they would need to do is take all the ammo and dump the tanks and spare parts into the ocean. its hard to track ammo once its out of its cases and boxes. there is so much russian ammo in the world today, that it would be easy to mingle this in with the rest. JMO.

Windwalker · 09-26-2008, 05:16 PM

Well, we didn't do so great in Somali so let the Russians have a go at it. Hope they do a roundup of pirates and war lords and hang them from the yardarm or shoot them on the spot.

GlockMeister · 09-26-2008, 05:27 PM

Knowing Sudan, they could have told the pirates about or sent them to do it so they could get even more out of or from Russia? Or, maybe Russia set the theft up to not have to deliver the goods? Who knows. Personally in this day and age, no one is to be or should be or can be trusted...

Or maybe, just maybe the pirates got REAL lucky. lol

Rave · 09-26-2008, 05:30 PM

This could get interesting,glad were not involved!

larmus · 09-26-2008, 05:33 PM

not yet anyways, some how some way our govt. will find a way to do or say something about this to piss someone else off. just wait....

09-26-2008, 03:09 PM	#1
LarryO1970 "Blazing Saddles" GOV Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Johnson Creek, WI Posts: 3,868	Ship Seized by Somali Pirates Carrying 33 Russian Tanks FOXNews.com - Ship Seized by Somali Pirates Carrying 33 Russian Tanks - International News \| News of the World \| Middle East News \| Europe News GAR!!! ... de Somali Pirates er done fer makie a mistakie now ! (I know... not Pirate Day anymore) Okay... my personal speculation here: I wonder if that was put out with full-knowledge it would be attacked by Pirates to justify another reason for Russia to get involved in the area? Coelptera, your thoughts? __________________ If anybody asks, it must have been the "trigger actuator nut"..... Last edited by LarryO1970; 09-26-2008 at 03:12 PM.

09-26-2008, 04:21 PM	#2
just_a_car Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Edmonds, WA Posts: 3,639	The pirates in the Somali waters have been active for many, many years. I've seen some TV shows where they feature situations such as Somali pirates attacking and boarding a cruise ship. I think on Futureweapons, they were showing off a sound device that's installed on some ships now to deter pirates. I'll bet they just saw that ship as another target of opportunity and were fortunate enough to get a hold of a bunch of military equipment. Now... my big question is, why did Russia have 33 tanks in that area? __________________

09-26-2008, 04:25 PM	#3
LarryO1970 "Blazing Saddles" GOV Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Johnson Creek, WI Posts: 3,868	I'm not so sure that is a fortunate grab ... as the Russians are pretty ticked off over it. __________________ If anybody asks, it must have been the "trigger actuator nut".....

09-26-2008, 04:28 PM	#5
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 6,257	Just another sign , the 33 tanks and or other military equipment, were on a ship heading where, that something is coming? __________________ I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6!

09-26-2008, 04:31 PM	#7
Rambo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Iowa Posts: 934	Now they gotta go kidnap some Russian tank crews to run the things for them. Otherwise, they'll just sit somewhere and rust. On another note, why is anyone operating in these waters without some kind of weapons-type defense? __________________ If you run, you'll just die tired.

09-26-2008, 04:27 PM	#4
Mad Hatter Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Connecticut Posts: 712	Hopefully the Russians come find their tanks and take out some pirates !!

09-26-2008, 04:33 PM	#8
YankeeSpirit76 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Cranston, Rhode Island Posts: 628	It said they sold them to Kenya. Seems funny though that the ruskies, KNOWING that those waters are filled with pirates would send 33 tanks without at least a couple of warships to escort it. HMMM

09-26-2008, 04:42 PM	#12
LarryO1970 "Blazing Saddles" GOV Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Johnson Creek, WI Posts: 3,868	You have a good point RockB ... although, they are steaming a warship to the Somali coast for "muscle" ... __________________ If anybody asks, it must have been the "trigger actuator nut".....

09-26-2008, 04:46 PM	#14
troy2000 Resident Armed Liberal Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern California Posts: 10,017 Images: 9	The Somali pirates are probably feeling like Redford and his partner in the beginning of the movie, 'The Sting.' Like, "uh-oh...what have we done?" __________________ I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting you really believe what you just said. WF Buckley, Jr

09-26-2008, 04:49 PM	#16
larmus Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: arizona Posts: 1,195 Images: 6	according to the news article they were bound for kenya as a rearmement for their military. looks like they went all the way around africa inorder to avoid somolia altogther, but ended up getting caught anyways. they also stated that the pirates would have a hard time unloading these tanks and ammo on to others. all they would need to do is take all the ammo and dump the tanks and spare parts into the ocean. its hard to track ammo once its out of its cases and boxes. there is so much russian ammo in the world today, that it would be easy to mingle this in with the rest. JMO. __________________ Lawrence

09-26-2008, 05:16 PM	#17
Windwalker Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 3,999	Well, we didn't do so great in Somali so let the Russians have a go at it. Hope they do a roundup of pirates and war lords and hang them from the yardarm or shoot them on the spot. __________________ America: Love it and protect it or leave it

09-26-2008, 05:27 PM	#18
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 6,257	Knowing Sudan, they could have told the pirates about or sent them to do it so they could get even more out of or from Russia? Or, maybe Russia set the theft up to not have to deliver the goods? Who knows. Personally in this day and age, no one is to be or should be or can be trusted... Or maybe, just maybe the pirates got REAL lucky. lol __________________ I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6!

09-26-2008, 05:30 PM	#19
Rave Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 7,048	This could get interesting,glad were not involved! __________________ USAF '62-'66 .

09-26-2008, 05:33 PM	#20
larmus Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: arizona Posts: 1,195 Images: 6	not yet anyways, some how some way our govt. will find a way to do or say something about this to piss someone else off. just wait.... __________________ Lawrence