Banned members?

[GlockMeister]

I have just a question out of curiosity. Will any of the banned members ever get to come back?

Will they ever be given the chance to? As I can understand why they were banned to begin with, is it a permanent ban or a temporary time limit ban?

Does the moderator who banned them also have to be the one who un-bans them so to speak?

I'm not asking this because I plan on getting banned, lol, but I've noticed quite a few who had much to contribute here, some in many areas and some in certain areas/forums. And to be honest, some of that info was quite helpful, to/for me anyhow.

I doubt some will or would even want to come back, but it would be nice if maybe there was a system in place, maybe there is?, where if you get banned it's for a time and if you get banned a 2nd time, then it's permanent. The way it seems, you get banned, that's it. I can except this if that's what the owner/Chris wants, but then why not just go ahead and then get rid of any trace of them ever being here? Remove their user ID's from the member list, remove their profiles etc., etc., etc..

Only asking and bringing it up out of suriosity.I can understand and do except the rules and conditions. I just want to know if these people will ever get the chance to come back or not?

[connormcmanus]

I've wondered that as well, mainly concerning pred, he seemed to have a wealth of knowledge to offer. I'm not saying he didn't get banned for a good reason. But I coincide with GM. Just questions

[DaTeacha]

Not to start a revolt or anything, but how could you tell if a banned person reregistered under a different name using a different computer? Like if I was to get banned, I could reincarnate myself as "The Tutor" using my old Gateway or my wife's laptop, couldn't I?

On the other hand, if you get thrown out of place, why would you want to come back?


*** Hey, I just noticed when I posted this -- I'm now a senior member! Must be the 100 post mark.

[Windwalker]

I enjoyed the pics. that Irish Murphy used to post.

[Zephri]

pred got banned?!!!

[knightRider]

yeah a while back.

[bigbuddy21]

Originally Posted by Windwalker

I enjoyed the pics. that Irish Murphy used to post.

why was murph banned?

[stalebiscuit]

what were pred and irish murphy banned for? i am very out of the loop here

[LiveToShoot]

Heck, I'm surprised that I haven't been banned for my to the bare bone comments...

...and, I hope those who have been banned may have a chance for redemption and return.

Sometimes, many times, those with strong words are also the ones with strong thinking...

...the kind of deep thinking that helps us out of deep trouble.

[Ruger100]

Originally Posted by stalebiscuit

what were pred and irish murphy banned for? i am very out of the loop here

Don't feel bad...I'm too new to realize they weren't here

[squirrelbaster]

very few people are banned that have not been warned over and over about what they are doing. banning is a last resort...
i dont feel like a person should be let back in if they have been banned, however if they make a plea to chris and he OKs it then i of couse have no problem with it. i dont understand why some people just cant follow the rules, i guess some people are not ment to be part of this community. what everyone really needs to remember is that this is NOT a democrocy! IT IS A CHRIS-OCROCY!

[LiveToShoot]

Yea...

...a CHRIS-OCROCY.

That's it...

And, each person has value...

...even when their minds and typing fingers can't seem to get it right.

Maybe they will approach Chris for reconsideration...

...cause I miss some of the ones banned, the ones I got to know and appreciate.

Heck, I've gotten to know and appreciate T2K...

...and, I've found out that he's a pretty cool guy and helpful member of our forum.

[GlockMeister]

Originally Posted by DaTeacha

Not to start a revolt or anything, but how could you tell if a banned person re-registered under a different name using a different computer? Like if I was to get banned, I could reincarnate myself as "The Tutor" using my old Gateway or my wife's laptop, couldn't I?

On the other hand, if you get thrown out of place, why would you want to come back?


*** Hey, I just noticed when I posted this -- I'm now a senior member! Must be the 100 post mark.

They use to do that until the owner decided and started banning or just blocking their/the ISP address. That's how they can't or don't come back re-registered as someone else. One did do just that which is why they now do it the ISP way. But it is still possible if you have or get something that changes or can change your ISP. But if or once they find out it's you, it's bye-bye again. And it should be. But, that's why I want to know if this is all permanent or what?

[DaTeacha]

Okay, so you block the ISP. What if I changed to a different internet service? What if I went to the local library instead of posting from home? Or work -- I often visit here before school, during lunch, etc. if only because the system is so much faster there. And somehow, I have a 'slight' suspicion that a whole lot of folks out there in the labor force use work computers for non-work stuff at lunch or during breaks, and maybe (gasp!) on company time if they can get away with it.

I guess it just depends on how desperate the former member is to circumvent the system, doesn't it? Of course, they would have to behave themselves after sneaking back in, so the purpose of banning would have worked, wouldn't it?

[BunnyWabbit]

I have not seen anything in over a year where Chris was not fair in his decisions. If he banned someone, I am sure they deserved it. Do we want someone back who has repeatedly done things to get banned? There has to be some kind of rules that dictate unacceptable behavior. This forum is called Gun and Games. Can't be much games when that kind of stuff goes on. He is keeping it fun for those of us who like it that way.

[LiveToShoot]

If they are a repeat offender, and have been given multiple chances to get it together...

...then, they've forfeited their membership privileges.

[Mad Hatter]

Mitch McKee gone also, I thought he had alot to offer... I didn't know Irish Murphy was gone.. ;(

[DaTeacha]

I'm just asking technical questions here, not criticizing the decisions made. Things like this just get me thinking, that's all.

But then I'm also a guy who thinks I have a right to freely unscramble and use any TV/Radio/etc signals that are constantly dumped on my home and property if I choose to go to the trouble of buying or building a device to do so. The courts don't agree with me, but if I'm not allowed to use it why should someone be allowed to bombard me with their electronic garbage? If it's so valuable, they shouldn't be spraying it onto my property. If they intentionally put it on my property, I should be able to do with it as I please.

I mean, can I spray the contents of my septic tank on their yard and not get punished for it? Of course not, even if I can prove it's good for their lawn. But could I sell the same stuff to them as fertilizer, including application? You betcha! Where's the difference between that and the electronic blizzard to which we are constantly subjected?

So anyways, I'm just curious, not fomenting revolution or something. After all, I don't want to get banned. I just got to be a senior member a little while ago!

[squirrelbaster]

i cant think of a single nbaned person that i really miss...mitch, and pred included............. they all got ban for things that made this place a worse placenot a better so i say good riddense(sp?), we are better off with out them.

[GlockMeister]

Originally Posted by BunnyWabbit

I have not seen anything in over a year where Chris was not fair in his decisions. If he banned someone, I am sure they deserved it. Do we want someone back who has repeatedly done things to get banned? There has to be some kind of rules that dictate unacceptable behavior. This forum is called Gun and Games. Can't be much games when that kind of stuff goes on. He is keeping it fun for those of us who like it that way.

While I am in complete agreement with you, I'd also say and point out that my inquiry is, is there only one chance? Once you are banned is there no way to even say, hey, I'm sorry, I won;t do it again and get a second chance? Because as I said, some had quite a bit of knowledge and a lot to offer. And for me, that's why I joined and what keeps me here. There's still a lot of knowledgeable people here, but a site can never have too many. Another point I'll make, whenever you get a bunch of testosterone in one place, you're bound to have a few not get along or things get heated.

But yes, if they continually do it, they shouldn't be allowed back.

Here's the thing. If I do something wrong, is there a warning? Maybe ban me for a week. if I come back and do it again, then yea, I'm gone. But if it's because someone else is involved, say instigating the situation, then maybe they should be punished also? There are always 2 sides to every story. Maybe a moderator got power hungry or something? We don't know or may never know?

I'd just like to know if some are ever going to be allowed to or even given the chance to come back?

Personally, I liked Pred and Irish and wish they'd be allowed or offered the chance to come back. Mitch, yea, he was a pain in the ARSE, but personally, I was able to tolerate him. But then, I never instigated him or got him riled up either? When he got on my nerves, I simply avoided him or told him and let it be at that, then avoided him. But with Mitch, from what I heard, yes, he was verbally warned and still persisted being a smart mouth and called the wrong person a foul name and didn't learn, and those are the ones who indeed shouldn't be allowed back. But not every situation is like that nor is every person like Mitch. But I'd add, in my honest opinion, it wasn't all Mitches fault. Sure, he can only control his own actions, but often he was goated into things. But again, if he didn't have the common sense to not be goated into it, then well, you know, his own fault. But shouldn't anyone who antaginizes or goats someone be banned also then? I mean in that kind of a situation, it does take 2 to argue right?

I don't know, with Mitch, maybe there was more to it? I brought this up out of more questions needing answers about banning, banned members and out of concern about seeing some be able to or invited to come back. Like Pred and Irish off the top of my head. But then, if there's more to it then what I/we know, then I can understand., But if I/we don't know there was more to it, well then, we ask things like this. lol