Old 10-03-2008, 10:30 PM   #1
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Anybody seen Izhevsk 1944 M44's with brass bolts through the pistol grip area of the stock ?? No crack or anything, just a brass screw and nut through and through. Thanks !!
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Old 10-04-2008, 03:35 AM   #2
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Interesting but I haven't heard or seen anything like this that wasn't used in stock repairs. Pics?
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Old 10-04-2008, 07:36 AM   #3
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Anybody seen Izhevsk 1944 M44's with brass bolts through the pistol grip area of the stock ?? No crack or anything, just a brass screw and nut through and through. Thanks !!
If its where the wrist bolt would be it sounds like a basement job that someone didnt like the look of the wrist bolt

I can find nothing on any site about brass bolts thro stock
In 1944 I think brass would have been Rationed in russia and in high demand for the war effort for bearing (bushings) production
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There are two 1944 laminates that just came in to my local gun shop. Both have it, and I've never seen one before. It is not a recent addition as they've turned green and stained the stock a little. Also, they are not refurbs in that there is no counterbore, and they are all matching.
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Old 10-04-2008, 09:15 PM   #5
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Old 10-05-2008, 09:01 AM   #6
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I'll see if the shop owner will let me take a pic.
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Would love to see the pics. That is pretty interesting.
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If its where the wrist bolt would be it sounds like a basement job that someone didnt like the look of the wrist bolt

I can find nothing on any site about brass bolts thro stock
In 1944 I think brass would have been Rationed in russia and in high demand for the war effort for bearing (bushings) production
I think that was Bronze, but what the hey...
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Anybody seen Izhevsk 1944 M44's with brass bolts through the pistol grip area of the stock ?? No crack or anything, just a brass screw and nut through and through. Thanks !!
I have a 1944 Izhevsk M44 lammy, and it only has the normal wrist bolt.
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Old 10-05-2008, 11:49 AM   #10
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Here's a pic with the 2nd and 3rd rifle showing the wrist bolt. I guess they are sorta rare. Done on hardwood and laminate. This was the first time seeing one:
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Here's a pic with the 2nd and 3rd rifle showing the wrist bolt. I guess they are sorta rare. Done on hardwood and laminate. This was the first time seeing one:
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Is that the exact wrist bolt you're talking about? Both of my M44s have those.
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Yep- I have never seen one until recently, and none of my Mosins have it. Are both your M44's laminate ??
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Yep- I have never seen one until recently, and none of my Mosins have it. Are both your M44's laminate ??
My 1944 Izzy is laminate, and my 1948 Izzy is hardwood.
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Well wheres Moose? Why doesn't he weigh in on this? But I haven't seen those before like that. I have just seen repairs done vertically through the stock in that place with brass pins or screws. Are they flush with the stock?

My Steyr M95 irritates me because the sling attachment goes right through the stock almost in the identical place. Who knows, maybe it was some sort of provision for a sling, or it is a repair, but its just so well done it can't be seen?

I hadn't heard of this until you brought it to everyone's attention. But let us know if you figure anything out.
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Old 10-06-2008, 12:52 AM   #15
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See, I reasoned, based on my two observations, that It might be a way of strengthening a laminate stock. But it says it was done to regular stocks as well. But not too often !! Both ends of the bolt are recessed in the two instances I have seen. Just another facet of the Mosin, I have not seen personally !! Yet there are other members that have them, and thought them to be ordinary !! You guys gotta talk about everything about your purchase to add to the total informational base we are building here !!
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I have seen one or two photos from time to time of Mosins with what looked like a second cross/recoil bolt in the wrist area of the stock. Not sure why it would have a second one, unless that stock was weak in that area (crack etc). have you taken it down/apart yet to look at it more closely?
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Old 10-06-2008, 11:05 AM   #17
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Except to fix a crack that ran all the way through, I can't imagine why anyone would put a screw there. But how likely is it a laminate stock would crack all the way through? That's why you laminate - to prevent a crack in one layer from passing all the way through all the other layers. I haven't seen this before, anywhere. I think everyone wants to know the answer to this one, Swede.
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Interesting on the bolts= I have never seen one in person.
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Old 10-06-2008, 12:45 PM   #19
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I haven't found much more info on this. Now I am intrigued to find out what this is all about !!
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Millright, I recognize the Hamm's beer bear in your avatar. Do they even still make that nasty stuff? I thought Olympia bought them out.
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