Ammo differences

Dale · 10-03-2002, 01:52 AM

What is the difference between 7.62 x 54 and 7.62 x 54R ammo?

I see in Shotgun News where they refer to 7.62 x 54 as Mauser ammo. But the last Mauser ammo I asked for they gave me the 'R' versions.

Can Mausers shoot either?

Confused as heck here.....yepper.

wes · 10-03-2002, 01:56 AM

Rim.

FEG · 10-03-2002, 02:05 AM

I wasn't aware that Mausers were chambered in 7.62x54. Are you thinking of the so-called Belgian Mauser chambering?

7.62x54R is the Mosin-Nagant, Dragunov, etc. round. I believe the R stands for "Russian." It MIGHT stand for "rimmed," but I doubt it. According to older manuals (like Lyman 45th), it stands for "Russian." These days, people are saying "rimmed," but since no one felt the need to add "R" to anything else, I wonder.

P.S. Not trying to be argumentative, I honestly DO wonder.

Dale · 10-03-2002, 08:00 AM

I was referring to an ad in the Shotgun News by "Ammunitionstore" but after digging the paper out again I stand corrected.

The 7.62. x 54 Mauser I referred to is actually 7.65 x 54 and is designed, apparently, for Argentine Mausers.

I would opt that 'R' refers to rimmed because there is Russian 7.62 rounds that don't have an 'R' designation given to them.

I appologize for not being more alert.

Big Dog · 10-03-2002, 08:13 AM

The "R" is indeed "rimmed", as the 8X56R Hungarian is a rimmed round, too. I've seen European sources give a metric "R" designation to our .22 Hornet.
The 7.62X54R is also called 7.62X53R in Finnish sources.
The Mauser we all know and love is 7.92X57.

10-03-2002, 01:52 AM	#1
Dale Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Too Dang Hot, Arizona Posts: 4,284	Ammo differences What is the difference between 7.62 x 54 and 7.62 x 54R ammo? I see in Shotgun News where they refer to 7.62 x 54 as Mauser ammo. But the last Mauser ammo I asked for they gave me the 'R' versions. Can Mausers shoot either? Confused as heck here.....yepper. __________________ "It confuses me how some people can vigorously go against the 2nd. Amendment and still call themselves patriotic"-me

10-03-2002, 02:05 AM	#3
FEG Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Behind the Iron Curtain Posts: 517	I wasn't aware that Mausers were chambered in 7.62x54. Are you thinking of the so-called Belgian Mauser chambering? 7.62x54R is the Mosin-Nagant, Dragunov, etc. round. I believe the R stands for "Russian." It MIGHT stand for "rimmed," but I doubt it. According to older manuals (like Lyman 45th), it stands for "Russian." These days, people are saying "rimmed," but since no one felt the need to add "R" to anything else, I wonder. P.S. Not trying to be argumentative, I honestly DO wonder. __________________ WARNING: CZs MAY BE HABIT-FORMING (Consult a doctor if nursing or pregnant). Last edited by FEG; 10-03-2002 at 02:08 AM.

10-03-2002, 08:00 AM	#4
Dale Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Too Dang Hot, Arizona Posts: 4,284	I was referring to an ad in the Shotgun News by "Ammunitionstore" but after digging the paper out again I stand corrected. The 7.62. x 54 Mauser I referred to is actually 7.65 x 54 and is designed, apparently, for Argentine Mausers. I would opt that 'R' refers to rimmed because there is Russian 7.62 rounds that don't have an 'R' designation given to them. I appologize for not being more alert. __________________ "It confuses me how some people can vigorously go against the 2nd. Amendment and still call themselves patriotic"-me Last edited by Dale; 10-03-2002 at 08:26 AM.

10-03-2002, 08:13 AM	#5
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,412	The "R" is indeed "rimmed", as the 8X56R Hungarian is a rimmed round, too. I've seen European sources give a metric "R" designation to our .22 Hornet. The 7.62X54R is also called 7.62X53R in Finnish sources. The Mauser we all know and love is 7.92X57. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

10-03-2002, 01:56 AM	#2
wes Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Loveland Co Posts: 1,905	Rim.