Old 11-05-2008, 05:31 AM   #1
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anyone have crimson trace laser for their lcp? i'm thinking about getting one...any reviews? thanks
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Old 12-09-2008, 07:21 PM   #2
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anyone have crimson trace laser for their lcp? i'm thinking about getting one...any reviews? thanks
Let me start by being provocative. I no longer consider a handgun EDC qualified unless it has a LaserGrip/LaserGuard. Let me explain.

The primary benefit of the laser is not it's tactical use, but it's training use. My two EDC handguns have completely different "feels" to shoot. I have found the use of the laser useful in training myself in smooth trigger control. I dry-fire incessantly (with snap caps). Any movement is impossible to ignore with the movement exaggerated by the distance of the laser dot at the target. Training is perishable. It decays exponentially with time. So frequent practice on the fundamentals is essential to maintain competence.

Some good references on the training benefits of lasers are:
  1. pistol-training.com Laser Sighting Systems as Training Aids
  2. Free DVD from Crimson Trace, Crimson Trace :: Shots In The Dark DVD


I am trying to learn to shoot with both eyes open. The laser is helpful, but I'm still struggling.

I am also practicing point shooting. Use of the laser and dry-firing makes it easy and inexpensive to develop the muscle memory necessary for success.

For tactical use, two things to keep in mind. First, electronic stuff can fail, though usually early in it's use. None the less, you must also be competent with your regular sights in case of laser failure. Second, in SD situations, many of the things you learned go out the window. In panic, both eyes are likely to be wide open and you will be focusing on the target, not the front sight. Laser sighting will help in these situations. You will also will be able to use "off iron sight" shots illustrated in some of the Crimson Trace commercials I've seen on the Outdoor channel.

Last, to illustrate my conviction, I would prefer to carry my M&P 45c for EDC. It is great to shoot and easier to conceal carry. But Crimson Trace does not have current plans to develop a model this handgun. Therefore, I EDC my M&P 45fs.

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Old 12-09-2008, 07:25 PM   #3
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in my opinion the LCP (which I have and carry daily) is a "in your face" defense weapon and sights of any kind are really not needed. The price of the Crimson trace for this weapon is rediculous for what it is.
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Old 12-09-2008, 07:53 PM   #4
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As I dry fire a lot to maintain trigger discipline rather than using live ammo at a range, it does not take long for me to burn through the $160 street price for the LG-431. For me, it is a good economic decision.
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Old 12-09-2008, 07:55 PM   #5
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dmwphoto, I have family in Richmond and travel there several times a year. Where do you shoot around there?
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Old 12-09-2008, 08:00 PM   #6
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I am a member at Black creek shooting range, also shoot a t D&P indoor range and some private land. Shoot me a message if you are coming through.
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HowardCohodas -- I haven't seen your posts before. Your post count is low, so I presume you are pretty new to the site. Welcome from another Ohioan. There are several of us from the northeast quarter on here. I like your attitude and your apparent experience. Glad to have you among us.
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Old 12-29-2008, 07:32 AM   #8
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HowardCohodas -- I haven't seen your posts before. Your post count is low, so I presume you are pretty new to the site. Welcome from another Ohioan. There are several of us from the northeast quarter on here. I like your attitude and your apparent experience. Glad to have you among us.
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Old 12-29-2008, 09:16 AM   #9
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HowardCohodas... Great rational...YUP... Put the Snap caps in, and Snap-Draw-Shoot to your hearts content... With a Laser you can hit your Mark Perfectly Shooting From The Hip...YUP...
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Old 12-31-2008, 01:26 AM   #10
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i did end up buying it..what a great purchase
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