Anti gun article, and one man's response.

Big Dog · 10-14-2002, 03:35 PM

I couldn't let this crap stand unchallenged. I know, fat lot of good it'll do, but it sure felt good to heave a few facts at her.

http://www.accessatlanta.com/ajc/opi...ker/index.html

And the 'Dog's response:

"Ms. Tucker,
I enjoy reading fiction as much as the next person, and this article is replete with inaccuracies, wild conjecture and dare I say it, outright lies. I know where you are coming from, raised a nice conformist Left-wing Liberal - but come now! To demonize some six million honest firearm owners with this drivel does you and your paper no justice.

"Yet felons and terrorists have access to high-powered firearms sold at gun shows, where no background checks are required."
In truth, by Federal law, all transactions between licensed dealers and the public require the "instant call-in" check, to see if the buyer has a criminal record or other problems precluding firearm ownership. For handguns, there is the addition of a mandatory waiting period. No legitimate dealer will jepardise his career and liberty by selling to a felon or terrorist.

"Yet last year's anthrax attacks killed only five."
Well, that certainly puts those five lives in perspective. Automobile related deaths are in the thousands nationwide every year - yet you don't call for banning cars. Hmmmmm . . .

"Yet Americans tolerate casual sales of the most deadly battlefield-ready firearms to civilians, including weapons, such as the one used by the Washington-area sniper, which can be accurate at a distance of up to 500 yards. Other sniper rifles, also legal, are accurate and deadly at ranges of a mile or more and can pierce an inch of armor."
With the afore mentioned checks, the sales are certainly not "casual". Any good hunting rifle meets the new Liberal description of a "sniper rifle". Indeed, most military "sniper rifles" are indeed modified hunting rifles. The last sentence references the .50 caliber anti-materiel weapons used by the military, and a few extremely heavy and expensive ultra-long range hunting weapons. These are out of the means of most of us to buy, expensive to feed and maintain, and require extensive training to use properly. They are even in the scope of this article.

"But the nation's gun lobby has successfully fought off not only the registration of firearms but also "ballistics fingerprinting."
They fought what was a bald-faced attempt at back-door gun registration. Well done, NRA and others! Name one instance where having a criminal's fingerprints on record kept him/her from committing a crime. You can't. Tracing a car used in a crime might result in recovery of the vehicle, or it's stripped carcass. It doesn't prevent the crime. Stolen guns can sometimes be tracked by serial number and traced back to dealer or lawful owner, but that won't tell who stole it.

"Ashcroft is such a faithful acolyte of Second Amendment absolutism that he refused to allow FBI agents to search through records of gun sales earlier this year to see whether any firearms had been purchased by terrorist suspects."
Uh, hello? Terrorists don't buy their weapons by legal means. Neither do criminals. There is a reason they are called criminals. They break laws, they don't obey them. Please remove your head from your posterior and take a deep breath. The fresh air will do you a world of good.

This has been just my two cents worth, not adjusted for inflation. And yes, I am an honest, lawful gun owner.

L. Revell "

oneastrix · 10-14-2002, 04:07 PM

Pretty much well written....

Benny · 10-14-2002, 05:49 PM

A+ you have successfully defended the Second Amendment, you pass debate class!

Benny

PS that makes you a master debater! HA

Sniper[MI] · 10-14-2002, 10:45 PM

Howdy,

I'm shocked that someone with her head that far up her backside can still write anything.................

NRAJOE · 10-15-2002, 03:12 AM

Good man! Have him join us!

Big Dog · 10-15-2002, 07:30 AM

That was my response to her drivel. I normally don't bother E-mailing these Libs. It's an execrcise in frustration - you won't convince them, they won't convince you. But this twit was just so full of it. At least I feel a little better now.

10-14-2002, 03:35 PM	#1
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,219	Anti gun article, and one man's response. I couldn't let this crap stand unchallenged. I know, fat lot of good it'll do, but it sure felt good to heave a few facts at her. http://www.accessatlanta.com/ajc/opi...ker/index.html And the 'Dog's response: "Ms. Tucker, I enjoy reading fiction as much as the next person, and this article is replete with inaccuracies, wild conjecture and dare I say it, outright lies. I know where you are coming from, raised a nice conformist Left-wing Liberal - but come now! To demonize some six million honest firearm owners with this drivel does you and your paper no justice. "Yet felons and terrorists have access to high-powered firearms sold at gun shows, where no background checks are required." In truth, by Federal law, all transactions between licensed dealers and the public require the "instant call-in" check, to see if the buyer has a criminal record or other problems precluding firearm ownership. For handguns, there is the addition of a mandatory waiting period. No legitimate dealer will jepardise his career and liberty by selling to a felon or terrorist. "Yet last year's anthrax attacks killed only five." Well, that certainly puts those five lives in perspective. Automobile related deaths are in the thousands nationwide every year - yet you don't call for banning cars. Hmmmmm . . . "Yet Americans tolerate casual sales of the most deadly battlefield-ready firearms to civilians, including weapons, such as the one used by the Washington-area sniper, which can be accurate at a distance of up to 500 yards. Other sniper rifles, also legal, are accurate and deadly at ranges of a mile or more and can pierce an inch of armor." With the afore mentioned checks, the sales are certainly not "casual". Any good hunting rifle meets the new Liberal description of a "sniper rifle". Indeed, most military "sniper rifles" are indeed modified hunting rifles. The last sentence references the .50 caliber anti-materiel weapons used by the military, and a few extremely heavy and expensive ultra-long range hunting weapons. These are out of the means of most of us to buy, expensive to feed and maintain, and require extensive training to use properly. They are even in the scope of this article. "But the nation's gun lobby has successfully fought off not only the registration of firearms but also "ballistics fingerprinting." They fought what was a bald-faced attempt at back-door gun registration. Well done, NRA and others! Name one instance where having a criminal's fingerprints on record kept him/her from committing a crime. You can't. Tracing a car used in a crime might result in recovery of the vehicle, or it's stripped carcass. It doesn't prevent the crime. Stolen guns can sometimes be tracked by serial number and traced back to dealer or lawful owner, but that won't tell who stole it. "Ashcroft is such a faithful acolyte of Second Amendment absolutism that he refused to allow FBI agents to search through records of gun sales earlier this year to see whether any firearms had been purchased by terrorist suspects." Uh, hello? Terrorists don't buy their weapons by legal means. Neither do criminals. There is a reason they are called criminals. They break laws, they don't obey them. Please remove your head from your posterior and take a deep breath. The fresh air will do you a world of good. This has been just my two cents worth, not adjusted for inflation. And yes, I am an honest, lawful gun owner. L. Revell " __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

10-14-2002, 04:07 PM	#2
oneastrix Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 5,213	Pretty much well written.... __________________ There's no one more thankful to sit at the table, than the one who best remembers hunger's pain.

10-14-2002, 05:49 PM	#3
Benny Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Socorro, NM Posts: 202	A+ you have successfully defended the Second Amendment, you pass debate class! Benny PS that makes you a master debater! HA __________________ Are you going to eat that??

10-14-2002, 10:45 PM	#4
Sniper[MI] Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Future 51st state, "New Hope" Posts: 3,796	I'm shocked Howdy, I'm shocked that someone with her head that far up her backside can still write anything................. __________________ FNUH!

10-15-2002, 03:12 AM	#5
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,052 Images: 3	Good man! Have him join us! __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

10-15-2002, 07:30 AM	#6
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,219	Oh, I've been here for awhile! That was my response to her drivel. I normally don't bother E-mailing these Libs. It's an execrcise in frustration - you won't convince them, they won't convince you. But this twit was just so full of it. At least I feel a little better now. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.