I got a SentrySafe from Wal Mart that sells for $468. It's not as heavy as I'd prefer(probably only 200ish pounds), but I'm moving soon, and I'll be able to find a good place to put it and it'll be fine. It's got an electric lock with a key override
I've been looking quite a bit only have 800 to spend. I seen them stack on total defense the doors are built like fornt know but the walls are junk they will flex we you push on them. I looked at cannon I like them whats better ext hinges or internal I'd like an electronic lock with override if possible.
I have a couple Cannon's and they are pretty good I think,they weigh around 550lbs empty and who knows what they weigh when full,but if a professional thief decided to rob me I don't think they would have a problem getting into them,but I don't think anybody could get them open. I know the combinations and I sometimes have trouble getting them open.And they have a 1hr fire rating. Atleast I have everything fully insured in case something does ever happen.
i know how they are built some have just a regular opening door with the hinges and some have the hinges with sliding rods that lock the door to. i'm just saying you can get into them with sawsall's thats it. i use my saws-all to cut wime pretty hard stuff and it's never let me down. some safes are made out of regular iron and some are made out of cast iron but it don't matter how or what it's made of it can be broken into with a saws-all. unless you mount it in the wall where there is no edges sticking out. the saws-al can cut the ends off a corner very easy and with the hinges gone to that only helps out.now it will take time cause sometimes when i'm cutting scrap iron with mine it takes a little time but i cut 2"solid stainless steel shafts with mine there are all kinds of blades out there.. i work with iron all the time safes only slow people down if it was me i would mount a movemet alarm on my safe too.something that is activated when it's locked but as soon as you unlock it it's deactivated. if someone trys to move it it will go off and if they try cutting into it it will go off. sometimes you have to leave your house for a few hours and with a few hours a thief can work wonders.i'm home 24/7/365 so i don't have to worry about that part but if i ever have to leave home for a day them guns get moved to a safer place and thats only for storm evacuations other than that we home.
i agree that safes only slow people down, but the fact is you mentioned the hinges being a liability. i will say it again, you can cut the hinges off and not alter the security of a safe. without cutting the sides open, or the top off, your not going to just pop the door off of a good safe. the hinges only hold the door on when they are open, they are not part of the structural integrity of the safe.
If you have firearms and can afford a safe, I advise and suggest you or anyone else get one. Especially if you have children. I say in that case, it's the responsible thing to do.
Get one with a minimum rating of 45 minutes at 1200 or 1300 degrees or something like that. And I'd agree with leftyO in getting a safe with at least a series 2 S&G (Sargent & Greenleaf) lock. One of if not the best in the industry.
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Morgan while they fight over safe hinges ( they dont really matter). There are 4 different kinds of safes.
Plain Iron safes. They dont offer any protection except a locked box.
There are data safes. They have a lower humidity to protect paper and things like magenetic media longer.
Fire proof safes. These really are one of the two types of gun safes.
Fire and water proof safes. These are the best of course but also the most expensive.
Get the largest safe with the best fire rating you can afford. Just remember you can always buy another in the future.
One of mine has a dial lock with a locking key. I like this type the best. The electronic ones are ok but a dial is better if you ask me. You can open it using the dial then just key lock it if you are carrying firearms in and out.
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I got one today on hold lets here yer thoughts on it.
Its a Cannon TS (built for Tractor Supply) 6039. hold 24 guns. Black Textured finish 1/2 hour 1300 degree rating thats not really as much as I'd like but atleast its UL listed unlike other "fire safes" I've looked at. movable shelfs.
Its came with the electronic look but I will probably be changing that out. The warrenty on these seems really good on these. Seems like by far the best bang for the buck at $599 it was $899 I found it onsale and they included the electric lock.
also the hinges are on the inside but thats not really a big deal to me.
Lets hear what you guys think pro's or cons?
Oh I agree thats why I wanted the 24 gun safe. I've never seen a safe company that will actually hold what it states. Your right my garands I had one hell of a time cramming in my old safejust a lil 8 gun safe. My brother has built me a coffie table with a magnetic latch the opens up and stores 2 guns inside I have been keeping them in you would never guees it its pretty cool but its time to put them away for safe keeping. He is gonna build be some false wall book shelfs next to hide this thing behind I 'm gonna make sure he leaves enough room for another one in the future!