12-08-2008, 01:47 PM
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#21 | | Firearm Zealot
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OK,I'll settle down,whew,I done worked myself up in to a lather! 
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12-08-2008, 05:58 PM
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#22 | | Retired Moderator
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GWB leaned towards military involvement in the middle east, as connected with the events of Sept 11, 2001. He leaned away from involvement with N Korea, and that situation has stabilized slightly.
BO leans towards interventions in the Sudan. He favors expanding the Afghan conflict at the expense of the Iraq conflict. He also has repeatedly warned of the possibility of involvement in Pakistan.
What I think is going to happen is that BO will force himself to commit in many more theatres, but won't be able to scale down Iraq as he had planned. And I think BO will ultimately become the most militaristic president since the cold war for it, reinstituting the draft and possibly even using the bomb. He will end up burning even more bridges with the rest of the world, making more enemies and no new friends. At least GW bush made new friends despite ticking off a couple long term allies.
If only Iraq hadn't been about finding WMDs. If only it was about removing a tyrant who we had befriended, only to have him betray us, just as Osama Bin Laden had. Or if Saddam's posession of WMDs was seen as a doctrine, not a theory to prove. I think he had them and just sent them accross the border. Saddam Hussein was the WMD, and that should have been good enough. If we had just insisted it was good enough, I think we would have been in better shape.
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12-11-2008, 11:57 PM
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#23 | | Firearm Aficionado
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TexasT ^ROFL I think you definitely have it here! One of the funnier responses I've seen in context.
I think we all feel like something is coming. Wait for it....or don't. I'm ready for anything or ready to live my life and die before anything ever happens. 
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12-12-2008, 01:54 AM
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#24 | | Firearm Zealot
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Yes WWIII has started. It started on a Gun forum over a posting about WWWIII I believe.
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12-12-2008, 08:37 AM
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#25 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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CWT, getting back to the original post....
I also think we're starting to circle the drain as far as the current status quo goes, and although none of us can predict the future we can pay attention to what the powers that be say when they think we're not listening. Such as....
"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government."
Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991
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"A total world population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal."
Ted Turner, in an interview with Audubon magazine.
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"The truth of the matter is that you do have those standby provisions, and the statutory emergency plans are there whereby you could, in the name of stopping terrorism, apprehend, invoke the military, and arrest Americans and hold them in detention camps."
-- U.S. Representative Henry Gonzalez, August 29, 1994.
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"We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries."
David Rockefeller, Baden-Baden, Germany 1991
| So my answer is... No you're not just being paranoid. You're simply paying more attention than the average guy.
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12-12-2008, 08:54 AM
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#26 | | Banned
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| "...you're not just being paranoid. You're simply paying more attention than the average guy." Bingo...
...thanks!
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