[bigb831]

dont sell the ar i sold mine about 6 months ago and im relly regretting it i sold a 850 dollar rifle with 200 rds for $500. i should have sold my car. anyways dont sell the ar it was a good investment when you bought it. if any thing buy the saiga too. make sure you have plenty of ammo while its still cheap though.

[BattleRifleG3]

Ok, no insults here:
This is NOT a good time to trade an AR for a Saiga-12. This is NOT a good time to sell an AR. This is not a good time to buy a Saiga-12. This is because of how the markets are going crazy. This is NOT a good time to buy rifle ammo in large quantities.

This IS a good time to sell a Saiga or any other AK if you have one to spare and need the change. This IS a good time to build an AR from parts. This IS a good time to practice with your guns and replenish your ammo at the rate you shoot it. This IS a good time to save money to buy guns and ammo after the late bloomer frenzy dies down.

If you don't think you can make good use of an AR in an emergency, then it IS a good time to sell it. If your emergency preparedness is more geared to non-military firearms, then make the most of it. But if you think that someday you might ever want to have an AR again, DON'T sell it, or trade it, or anything. Just keep it, and if you can't afford to shoot lots of ammo, then don't shoot lots of ammo. Just keep some on hand in case you need it.

[texnmidwest]

Words of wisedom!

[beachcommando]

Quote:       Originally Posted by BattleRifleG3

Ok, no insults here: This is NOT a good time to trade an AR for a Saiga-12. This is NOT a good time to sell an AR. This is not a good time to buy a Saiga-12. This is because of how the markets are going crazy. This is NOT a good time to buy rifle ammo in large quantities. This IS a good time to sell a Saiga or any other AK if you have one to spare and need the change. This IS a good time to build an AR from parts. This IS a good time to practice with your guns and replenish your ammo at the rate you shoot it. This IS a good time to save money to buy guns and ammo after the late bloomer frenzy dies down. If you don't think you can make good use of an AR in an emergency, then it IS a good time to sell it. If your emergency preparedness is more geared to non-military firearms, then make the most of it. But if you think that someday you might ever want to have an AR again, DON'T sell it, or trade it, or anything. Just keep it, and if you can't afford to shoot lots of ammo, then don't shoot lots of ammo. Just keep some on hand in case you need it.

Very well said.

[ak lover]

so battlerifle are you and everybody telling me if you didnt have rounds for it you would still keep the rifle? even though it is a great rifle you would rather keep it with a small amount of ammo, enough ammo you could blow it all in like 4 shooting sessions, I wish i still had my AK that would sell for an AR right now people have been asking like crazy for the evil AK. Did you ever hear this...In iraq soldiers are dumping their AR's for AK's because the 7.62 bullet penetrates through concrete. Another question instead of getting like a mossberg `12 guage what about a AR 22 conversion can you explain everything i need to do that?

[Dark1]

Quote:      

In Iraq soldiers are dumping their AR's for AK's because the 7.62 bullet penetrates through concrete.

this is axially false some SF were using them befor they gut there 6.8 barrits and scar lights/SCAR-H and a lot of unit have them as ..... if as a us soldier in Iraq get cot using a AK you go to jail, and also the AK rnd sux at penetrating concrete if you want to punch holes in walls in Iraq you use a M2 or a MK19.
i have just returned from Iraq

and yes i would keep an AR no mater what atm even if you get rid of it after the AWB it will be worth a lot more in 94 a stock 500 doler colt ar when up to over 2000 so just do the math

[BattleRifleG3]

There's a big difference between not having ammo for it and not having a ton of ammo for it.

If you have only enough ammo for 4 shooting sessions and can't afford more, don't go on 4 shooting sessions. And then there's the question of how much you shoot in one session.

When money is tight, just shoot less. It's really not a bad thing if it means you work more on your aim. Buy ammo at the rate you shoot it, and shoot it at the rate you can afford to buy it. Simple.

As far as 22 conversions, there are many versions. Some use dedicated uppers, some use an existing upper. All use dedicated mags. Some use a mag shaped liek an AR mag but with a 22LR feeder in the middle. Some have an adapter that takes a thinner 22LR mag.

Personally, I would rather buy a 10-22 and mags than an AR conversion and mags for it.

If you really want to gun-down to save money, go ahead, but don't whine later about the prices of ARs when you decide you want one again. Your gun collection should grow slowly, not go on a roller coaster ride. You should buy your ammo to build up a supply in case something happens and you need it or something happens and you can't get it for a while. Then shoot it no faster than you can replace it. After 9/11 there was an AK ammo shortage, because some important importation people were killed in the WTC. No conspiracy, no ban, just one way a world event stopped the supply of ammo.

And look, if it really isn't important enough to you, or you don't think you can make good use of it, you shouldn't keep your AR just because other people tell you to. But when you ask if you should sell it without really improving your firearm situation, the answer from gun owners is probably going to be no.

[scootnshoot]

May I interject in my first post on this great site? The buying frenzy going on right now is PANIC buying. Everything being bandied about on the internet and in e-mails is pure speculation. I, personally, think that this is a double edged sword. Can Obama-nation sign an executive order doing damage to the gun industry? -Yes- Will he? -Don't know- What will the Congress have to say about a new AWB? -The Second Amendment is a VERY hot-button issue, and alot of the Senators and ESPECIALLY Representatives don't want to touch it again. At worst we have Obama-nation for 8 years...we survived 8 years of Clinton..., BUT we may really have to start a big fight to preserve our rights. JOIN THE NRA!!

[harry33592]

if your not smart enough to get ammo you shouldn't own the gun posting on the web of what you have ranks with the intel of a monky no absolutly no one tells ever hear of a militery town dual till you die

[ak lover]

What?

[ak lover]

harry i dont know what the hell your talking about but it sounds rude. not everybody is BIG BALLER like you. But...My financial situation is a lot better since my last post. Today i bought a mossberg 500 tactical 12 guage with a heatshield, and a 6 position stock. So even if i do sell the AR i would still have home defense. Who agrees that harry post is rediculous im simply asking for others opinions and if i choose to keep the AR i can buy a lot of ammo now, so harry you should watch what you say. No need for being nasty.

[keymasr5912]

Quote:       Originally Posted by harry33592

if your not smart enough to get ammo you shouldn't own the gun posting on the web of what you have ranks with the intel of a monky no absolutly no one tells ever hear of a militery town dual till you die

say what? i was a little reluctant to hit the quote button on this one. i don't want anyone to mistake him for me. reading that stuff realy did make me smile though

[Paper]

Quote:       Originally Posted by harry33592

no absolutly no one tells ever hear of a militery town dual till you die

I think I understand what he was trying to get across in the first part of that long sentence, but the second half still has me scratching my head...

dual till you die

I have a dual sport motorcycle.. Am I supposed to ride it until I die? Problem is I also like my other bikes.. What about now, when there's snow on the ground? Can I still continue to ride my snowmobile?

Classic case of PUI..

Posting under the influence..

[akguy]

listen to rex dont sell anything!!!!!!!!

[JBS]

Quote:       Originally Posted by harry33592

if your not smart enough to get ammo you shouldn't own the gun posting on the web of what you have ranks with the intel of a monky no absolutly no one tells ever hear of a militery town dual till you die

You been smokin' dat chit again, Homes?

[BattleRifleG3]

A 12ga shotgun is good for home defense. An AR is good for homeland defense.

You will have a hard time justifying a 100yd home defense shot in court. You will have a hard time defending your homeland if you can't take 100yd shots in relatively quick succession.

[milproakron]

I'll chime in on this one finally. LOL was waiting to see the other opinions.

I already HAD an AK when the gun frenzy hit. I immediately (election day) went out and bought the AR I had been wanting simply because I didn't want to wait to see if I'd be allowed to buy one in a few months.

Ammo is getting hard to find because everyone is stocking up. That will pass. The AR might be banned, but there are too many rifles chambered for it for the ammo to ever be banned. On a budget, I stop by the sporting goods store about once per week and simply pick up one or two boxes. It adds up quick.

As for the AK vs AR in Iraq debate, as an instructor I can tell you that the AK does have better penetration than the M16 on common house materials, wood, cinder block, metal, etc. We use a Marine Corps training video that demonstrates urban penetration with everything from the M9 pistol to the M2 .50. Some spec ops units who are working with Iraqi units carry AKs and RPDs to be consistent with their unit. Some tank crews early on in the war were taking AKs to carry until their M4s arrived. In those days, tank crews were only issued pistols, not rifles. Cuz You're in a friggin tank. LOL BUT, once the M4s arrived, they had to get rid of the AKs.

Smaller round or not, the M16/M4 is so much better at range and accuracy that we sacrifice a little penetration to get the other. The 6.8spc seems to have resolved that issue and I'm hoping they upgrade ALL M16s and M4s to that round. But, alot of Taliban die in Afghanistan because they try to engage NATO troops past 400 meters and can't get the rounds on target. Marines with M16A4s pick them off at 600+.

[billy]

Quote:       Originally Posted by harry33592

if your not smart enough to get ammo you shouldn't own the gun posting on the web of what you have ranks with the intel of a monky no absolutly no one tells ever hear of a militery town dual till you die

i love these kinda posts.
it's like watching a train wreck.

[Constantine1911]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Redbeernuts

I have in the past paid $0.74 for a gallon of gas and would never have dreamed of paying $5.00 per gallon but I did. IF ammo goes up like that (I doubt it will) I'll pay the asking price.

Same here, my guns will have bullets(if I still have them)

[jdevillier]

while B.O. is scaring the hell out of people, it is sobering to read the posts on the forum. I was depressed about B.O. but this thread has brightened my day. I laughed out loud! We have got to stick up for each other if we are going to beat back the liberals this time.