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Old 12-23-2008, 10:34 PM   #1
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308 HP for whitetail deer

This is the round iv been hunting with this year, Black Hills 168 gr. BTHP, iv read on other forums that HP Match bullets aren't very good for hunting this type of game for some reason, "HP Match rounds wont expand" "They will just pass right through the deer" "After being shot the deer ran half a mile away". Well iv had complete opposite results. Iv shot 3 deer this year, 165lb 8 point at 150 yds, 120lb doe at around 150yds, and a smaller 105lb doe at around 100yds. all three folded up and dropped where they were standing. The smaller doe ended up with an exit wound the size of a nerf football. and the other 2 were about the size of golf balls, so i think this is a very adequate hunting round to take large game quickly and humanely. What our your thoughts? Does anyone else hunt with a HP bullet? Any objections? Please share
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Old 12-23-2008, 10:40 PM   #2
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i use HP's, but not match bullets, hunting HP's. the issue with match bullets is they are not designed to expand, there purpose is to be aerodynamic. when using match bullets, a couple of things can happen. the bullets can fail to expand at all (actually the nose collapses and pretty much becomes a FMJ), or they can react like a varmint bullet, which will sometimes result in scenarios like yours, provided they do not hit much bone. your better off using a bullet designed for hunting (controlled expansion), because you are pretty much guaranteed the bullet will perform as expected.
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Old 12-23-2008, 10:49 PM   #3
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Yea i could tell that the bullet struke a ribe on the exiting side of the doe, and it seemed like the bullet grenaded
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Old 12-23-2008, 10:49 PM   #4
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i agree compleatly with lefty they are ment to fly properly not expand properly which can result in 2 different senerios they can not hit bone and leave a lazerbeam hole through or they can compleatly disenagrate on bone in or bone out making a poor wond chanel in or a massive exit wound i perfer nosler partitions myself but each to there own there are lots of hunting bullets on the market better suited
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Old 12-23-2008, 10:54 PM   #5
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for the 30 cal I like sierra 150 gr gamekings good stuff...
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Old 12-23-2008, 11:00 PM   #6
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what is the velocity on the 150 gr. gameking? if i do switch rounds, i want to switch to one thats as close as i can get to the one im shooting now, as far as bullet drop.
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Old 12-23-2008, 11:04 PM   #7
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from a 308 winchester anywhere from 2850 to 3000 depending on the zing of the load. they preform really well in my 300 WSM which makes them do 3250 they could go faster but then accuracy deminishes
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Old 12-23-2008, 11:16 PM   #8
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Well im not doing any reloading, id would like to get into it though
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Old 12-23-2008, 11:18 PM   #9
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check federal they reload with premium bullets and I think that sierra is on the list if not I know they reload with nosler and their 150 gr ballistic tips are really good they are not like the varmint bullets they are more controled they would work really nice.
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Old 12-23-2008, 11:30 PM   #10
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Know anything about the 165gr nosler accubond?
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Old 12-23-2008, 11:35 PM   #11
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yes I have used it it is a good hunting bullet for deer to elk if I am not mistaken it looks like an A if you cut it on the vertical axis very deep penetration and great expansion I would also recomend it
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Old 12-23-2008, 11:43 PM   #12
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Thanks for the input, im sure it will help
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Old 12-23-2008, 11:55 PM   #13
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I've used the hollow point Barnes X bullet extensively, but in heavier calibers - .35 Whelen, .416 Rem. Mag. and .45-70. It isn't a copper jacketed lead bullet it's solid copper and shoots right through broadside.

I think there's a lower velocity limit for expansion, around 1600 fps.

No complaints with this bullet other than it fouls the bore with copper streaks after several shots. Nothing that can't be taken care of with Hoppes Bench Rest solvent and a bronze brush.
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Old 12-24-2008, 12:12 AM   #14
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Well i think i might go with the Federal Premium v-shock line with the 165gr sierra gameking. It looks to be a good round and close to the black hills iv been shooting, gonna have to test it out. But expensive though.
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Old 12-24-2008, 01:15 AM   #15
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expensive but if you start to reload it get less expensive... and you can get started for 250 or so... you will be impressed with the bullet I guarentee it.
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Old 12-26-2008, 07:30 PM   #16
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I'm glad they work for ya.
Keep usin'em. I would as
long as they did the job.
I gotta friend that uses
130 gr. Hornady's in his
.30-06. Thats probably
a no no too. Says they
work good. He even killed
a wild boar with'em.
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Old 12-26-2008, 09:43 PM   #17
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I think 168 HPBT bullets are fine for deer. I wouldn't use them n anything bigger.
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Old 12-27-2008, 10:29 PM   #18
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I would think that they would be fine for bear also
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Old 12-27-2008, 11:06 PM   #19
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use what works for you. I was once told that nothing less than a 180gr nosler partition would work for deer. Well needless to say I use 125-150 gr bullets in my .308 and have had great luck. My next loading will be a hpbt sierra game king in 150 gr and we will see what happens.
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Old 12-30-2008, 10:59 AM   #20
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Go down to the store and by the cheapest soft point bullets you can find. Deer are not that hard to kill and wasting money on premium/expensive bullets is so unnecessary.
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