[LarryO1970]

I never said it was your quote Troy. I asked you what it meant to you. You waved it around by quoting it, not me.

Funny ... the Air Force Times was very much pro-McCain and was very much concerned over an Obama Presidency too. How shocking huh? Must have been the same older white males from Nebraska too.

... plain and simple, the military (all Branches) is concerned about Obama regardless of the economic class, gender, ethnicity and rank. Like it or not, it is what it is.

[TexasT]

Quote:       Originally Posted by troy2000

Those aren't my words, Larry. That's a direct quote from the Army Times article you're waving around. Try actually reading it. The Army Times didn't go out and do a balanced survey; they simply asked their readers to write in. And yes: the majority of responses did come from older white males...who strangely enough, were mostly in the friggin' Army, not the Air Force. After all, it's the Army Times, Larry.

This is true. One of my friends, who is active army personnel, told me that these polls are highly skewed because they are for entertainment. The people that actually vote in them are the ones that care to. It does not represent the majority opinion of the army. He also told me that most people in the army were pro-Obama and the election polls they did were the same type of thing. People who want to voice their opinion do.

[LarryO1970]

yep, that's one person's take. Quite the basis for a comparative there.

TT .... I live in the military, you know one person. But hey, I must be wrong... I'm a Republican.

[TexasT]

This person is not low on the totem pole. I also know more people who are in the armed services. You probably only talk to people who have the same opinion as you do.

[troy2000]

Quote:       Originally Posted by LarryO1970

I never said it was your quote Troy. I asked you what it meant to you. You waved it around by quoting it, not me. Funny ... the Air Force Times was very much pro-McCain and was very much concerned over an Obama Presidency too. How shocking huh? Must have been the same older white males from Nebraska too. ... plain and simple, the military (all Branches) is concerned about Obama regardless of the economic class, gender, ethnicity and rank. Like it or not, it is what it is.

What it meant to me is exactly what it said, Larry. It isn't really that hard to understand; read it slowly.

How did Nebraska get into the discussion? I didn't mention it, and the Army Times certainly never accused its poll respondents of being corn-fed midwesterners...

[LarryO1970]

Quote:       Originally Posted by TexasT

This person is not low on the totem pole. I also know more people who are in the armed services. You probably only talk to people who have the same opinion as you do.

... nice assumption TT... however, not only are you are wrong, but you are very wrong.

[LarryO1970]

Quote:       Originally Posted by troy2000

What it meant to me is exactly what it said, Larry. It isn't really that hard to understand; read it slowly. How did Nebraska get into the discussion? I didn't mention it, and the Army Times certainly never accused its poll respondents of being corn-fed midwesterners...

I'm not playing your game Troy... your a big boy, figure it out.

[troy2000]

Quote:       Originally Posted by LarryO1970

I'm not playing your game Troy... your a big boy, figure it out.

Not my game, Larry. I'll come back if and when you say something worth responding too.

[LarryO1970]

... so we're supposed to believe everything that Troy says as gospel because he read something he believes without asking the real people their thoughts instead?

TT finds someone who obviously speaks for the entire United States Army.

... sure, that works. Why should we question any of this rationale?

[TexasT]

Larry, I really can't imagine a Democrat in the army wanting to have an Obama discussion with you. I just don't see it. That's judging by how you are on the forum.

[LarryO1970]

... amazingly enough, I work with one all the time and we have great discussions. He and I are peers. HE even realizes that the military (at least the USAF) is very wary of Obama.

again, you are wrong in your assumptive imagination.

[scienceman]

Well all I can say is.........worried or not seems to be a mute point at this juncture. Obama won I was not an Obama supporter as most of you know. That not withstanding, he is the incoming commander and chief and all we can do is hope that most of us were wrong about him........I for one have never wanted to be proven wrong more than I do right now.........Larry i also hope that he is not as bad for our millitary as most think he will be.

[TexasT]

Quote:       Originally Posted by LarryO1970

... amazingly enough, I work with one all the time and we have great discussions. He and I are peers. HE even realizes that the military (at least the USAF) is very wary of Obama. again, you are wrong in your assumptive imagination.

As opposed to being wary of the person who put hundreds of thousands of lives in danger to begin with?

I don't think it's wrong to be concerned. Everybody is concerned with what's going to happen with the US because we're in such a bad state right now. And that's with Obama not even being in office yet. But people here on this forum take it to the TEOTWAWKI extreme.

[LarryO1970]

... as opposed to putting an entire country in danger to begin with ala Carter/Clinton by not fighting back when we should? Hey, if you want to bring in previous Presidents when we were only talking about Obama, we can.

... not if, but when he (and the Democrat strong Congress) attempts to go after the 2nd Amendment we will be in an even more sad state of affairs. If he does that, he will never see a second term.

... I only hope I am wrong about his plans for our guns... even you and Troy have a horse in this race ... but you certainly don't sound like it.

[Shaun]

I am been talking to some of the troops I am around here in the FT Campbell area and they are confirming what was stated in the article. Many are wary of the Muslim and what he is going to try to do with them once he is in office. They are aware that once he is in they cannot give their opinions but they fear more for the country and what he is going to do to destroy the constitution.

[troy2000]

Quote:       Originally Posted by LarryO1970

... so we're supposed to believe everything that Troy says as gospel because he read something he believes without asking the real people their thoughts instead? TT finds someone who obviously speaks for the entire United States Army. ... sure, that works. Why should we question any of this rationale?

Larry, you're the one who originally posted about the Army Times article and poll to begin with. And you certainly have no trouble believing the parts of it you want to believe. It's a little disingenuous of you to then turn around and start dumping on me, simply because I mention the limitations of the poll that are actually listed in the article itself.

And I would say that whoever T's talking to has just as much right to speak for the entire US Army as you have to speak for the entire Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines and Coast Guard...if anyone's taking in a little too much territory, it's you.

[LarryO1970]

Read post 35 Troy. My guess is that you will not believe the Troops at Fort Campbell either.

Good God, they're troops... they can't possibly know any better. There's gotta be limits and caveats to their statements !

Even in Liberal Wisconsin ... the "troops" of the Army, Air Force, Navy and Marines are worried about what Obama will do to the military. That alone speaks volumes.

[troy2000]

Quote:       Originally Posted by LarryO1970

Read post 35 Troy. My guess is that you will not believe the Troops at Fort Campbell either. Good God, they're troops... they can't possibly know any better. There's gotta be limits and caveats to their statements ! Even in Liberal Wisconsin ... the "troops" of the Army, Air Force, Navy and Marines are worried about what Obama will do to the military. That alone speaks volumes.

Reread my last post, Larry. I edited it, and you may have missed something.

You're trying to ignore the parts of the article you don't want to believe, and wave around just the misleading headlines instead.

[TexasT]

Quote:       Originally Posted by troy2000

Reread my last post, Larry. I edited it, and you may have missed something. You're trying to ignore the parts of the article you don't want to believe, and wave around just the misleading headlines instead.

This happens a lot here...

[LarryO1970]

well ... that's fine. How about being a bit genuine yourself and asking other active duty personnel if you don't believe any of the active duty personnel here ?

Jesus Troy ... you are right and everyone else is always wrong.