Old 01-10-2009, 07:43 PM   #1
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Monday, January 05, 2009
Storm Warning! Obama Will Attack...
Apparently I was wrong in my thinking that the Dems had been burned enough times on the gun issue that they'd wait until at least after the 2010 midterm elections before sticking their toe back into the parana pool.

Sources from Washington are telling me that President-Elect Obama may move forward on an Assault Weapons/Magazine Capacity Ban ASAP — maybe as soon as later this January.

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Jim Shepherd at the SHOOTING WIRE is this morning also reporting similar rumors. This from Jim:
Despite the new administration's insistence that jobs and the economy will be the top priority beginning January 20, insiders say payback to the NRA and other pro-Second Amendment groups is high on the agenda. Democratic advisors say the Republican party is "disorganized, disheartened, and dissolving" and it's a good time for the incoming administration to take them on in a core issue - the assault weapons ban is one of three topics they're evaluating.

If the AWB is chosen, everyone expects a pitched battle with no quarter given.

If the attempt to pass this drastically-expanded AWB succeeds, the administration will have proven itself virtually unbeatable in matters of policy. They will also further fracture the Republican party and simultaneously serve notice on any pro-gun Democrats that they'd better get with the new program, too.
Here is the insider reasoning as explained to me:
1) Obama has taken a beating from the moonbat Left since they learned they elected the third Clinton administration instead of the Messiah; he needs to do something to rebuild his left-wing cred.
2) He has no, or very limited moves, on the economy; he can't raise taxes in the face of this brutal recession; it's awkward to pull troops out of a war that's apparently won; global warming has fallen off the radar as the snow continues to pile up...he needs a big flashy move, and we may well be that move.
3) The Republicans are disspirited and disorganized. The Blue Dog Dems are less likely to band together this early in his administration against an Obama move, lest they open themselves to a flaying by the faithful. The one Western Dem who might have proved a rallying point, Ken Salazar of Colorado, was tapped to head the Department of the Interior and taken out of play.
4) The gun lobby is as weak now as it is ever going to be during Obama's administration.
5) Obama has the opportunity to woo the few remaining Bush Republicans — remember, Bush always said he'd sign a new AWB — that a new AWB is "common-sense legislation."
6) Sources close to the Obama Transition Team acknowledge that a new AWB would burn a huge amount of political capital, but it will "drive a stake in the ground" to prove Obama means what he says about "change" regardless of consequences.


We can assume a huge spin-up from Brady and the VPC, with their fellow travelers in the MSM, leading the charge. On our side, the industry is moving at warp speed to finish preparations for the upcoming fight. At the very least, this is going to cost a fortune. If you are not now a member of the NRA, join. And be ready to open your wallets...yes, there's a recession and we're all hurting, but that is exactly what our enemies are betting on!

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So anyone still thing the incoming dems can't multi-task?
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Old 01-10-2009, 07:47 PM   #2
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Old 01-10-2009, 07:59 PM   #3
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... Troy, your thoughts on this Liberal Obama attack?

I still believe this to be political suicide for Obama ... he will not get a second term if he does this.
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Old 01-10-2009, 08:04 PM   #4
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First link said blogger not found...Or do you need to have an account with eBlogger to view it?

I'll see if he posted the same blog/info on the downrangetv/shooting gallery forum???
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Old 01-10-2009, 08:11 PM   #5
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... Troy, your thoughts on this Liberal Obama attack?

I still believe this to be political suicide for Obama ... he will not get a second term if he does this.
the thing is, if he does this, it won't matter if he doesn't win a 2nd term or not, as the damage will have been done.

Now if he does, can another President overturn it or is there any recourse? I mean with the supreme court ruling as it did to me, it would directly go against that decision would it not?
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Old 01-10-2009, 08:24 PM   #6
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the thing is, if he does this, it won't matter if he doesn't win a 2nd term or not, as the damage will have been done.

Now if he does, can another President overturn it or is there any recourse? I mean with the supreme court ruling as it did to me, it would directly go against that decision would it not?

... I would think so, heck ... Prohibition was overturned.

... I really believe this is a very bad idea for the Democrats.

1. The Congressional approval rating is hovering around 18% and the people of this nation are pretty ticked off at them.

2. Any politician attacking the Constitutional Rights of any American is a sure bet to lose their job.

3. Attacking the sheer number of shooters in this country will definitely cause even more of a political rift between the Democrats and Republicans.

4. This will further polarize the Democrats and Republicans, contrary to what Obama and his staff haver said they wanted.

... it is what it is. Time will tell. I know I've never voted for an anti-gun politician, I do not plan to do so either.

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Old 01-12-2009, 10:17 AM   #7
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Attacking the civil rights of this nation, which would be my Counterpoint No. 1 were I in Congress and fighting against an AWB, is an excellent rallying point for the pro-gun and pro-civil rights Congresscritters. But more to the point, Slick Willy and the Democrats kind of snuck the 1994 AWB through the Congress. The legal gun owners of the United States were caught flatfooted.

We won't be caught flatfooted a second time.

This time around, we KNOW that the Obamination is rabidly anti-gun, no matter what doubleplusgood duckspeak he spouted on the campaign trail. We KNOW that mad dogs like Carolyn McCarthy, Dianne Feinstein, Upchuck Schumer, Red Ted Kennedy, Patrick "the Drunk" Kennedy, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are lurking, gleefully waiting for 12:00:01 on January 20th to try and deprive us of a civil right guaranteed by the Constitution. More to the point, so does the NRA, the Gun Owners of America and a host of other pro-gun rights groups.

And equally on point, this time we have something going for us that we did not the last time around: DC v. Heller. Scalia did a wonderful job of defining for the lackwits in the Congress just what the Second Amendment is, and what it does for the People. They will have a hard time coming up with something that will get past Heller's precedent. Not saying they can't; there are lots of lawyers in Congress, and passing camels through the eyes of needles is a required course in law school, but it will be harder.

But more to the point, at the first whisper that the antisocial swine in Washington are introducing such a bill, the shooters of America will flood their Representatives and Senators with mail and email demanding that they vote it down. I should think even the Democrats in office would have to pay heed to that. There are enough survivors of the 1996 Midterm Election Massacre still in office, and enough representatives who got there as a result of said midterm elections, who remember the backlash against the 1994 AWB. (Of course, what Obama and the Obamists may be counting on is, if they can get it passed now perhaps the People wikll have forgotten about it by 2010. That's an unwarrented assumption in my opinion.)

I really do think that passing such a ban might trigger a revolt in this country. We remember what the Democrats did last time they had majorities in the House and the Senate and a Democrtic President in the White House. And we won't be fooled a second time. As a group, gun owners do not like Obama. And WE are the ones with the means to resist him.

Obama really needs to think hard about that before he does something foolish, or allows the Congress to do something foolish, that abrogates a Constitutionally guaranteed civil right. He really does.
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... probably taxation of ammo will come first (the softer touch) and once he gets or knows he's not getting a second term, will institute the AWB. I honestly believe this will come first in the effort to gain funds to the Fed from taxation of the masses.

... I believe he is more interested in his own life as President and hopes for a 2nd term over the Schumers, Feinstens, Boxers and Pelosi's that he should know very well that he will not get that 2nd term if he attacks us. I think we all know Daley from Chicago will be all over Obama's ear since the Heller decision.

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... Troy, your thoughts on this Liberal Obama attack?

I still believe this to be political suicide for Obama ... he will not get a second term if he does this.
You mean my thoughts on all these rumors? Simple: they're rumors. People are pulling predictions out of their butts, and backing them up with vague "sources."

We'll see if their predictions are right or wrong in the coming months. Meanwhile I'm not going berserk over maybe's.
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