Old 02-01-2009, 02:35 PM   #1
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Probs with gp100

My wife got me a gp100 to add to my collection this is my first ruger. I had the thing for around 3 months and put around 500 rounds threw it mostly 38 sps. then the action started jamming up on me could not fined anything wrong with it (brokin or out of place ). So i sent it in and ruger has had it for going on 6 weeks now. All they tell me when i call is it is still with the the tech. I have never heard anything bad about ruger and have heard these revolvers are almost indestructible. So just wondering is i got the one lemon or has any one else had probs with these guns.
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Old 02-01-2009, 02:45 PM   #2
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Did you buy the gun new or used? If you bought it used then anyone could have messed with the insides of it. I have owned several over the years and not one single malfunction. I also shoot mostly 38's through mine. You getting a lemon is always possible. I've definitely had a few myself but none were Rugers. One other question for you. Do you slam the cylinder shut or close it with your hand? If you slam it like you see in the movies, that will definitely cause you jamming problems. Good Luck
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Did you buy the gun new or used? If you bought it used then anyone could have messed with the insides of it. I have owned several over the years and not one single malfunction. I also shoot mostly 38's through mine. You getting a lemon is always possible. I've definitely had a few myself but none were Rugers. One other question for you. Do you slam the cylinder shut or close it with your hand? If you slam it like you see in the movies, that will definitely cause you jamming problems. Good Luck
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Old 02-01-2009, 03:15 PM   #4
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Sending a gun back for warranty work is always my option of last resort because it always takes forever to get the weapon back. Be glad you don't live in California because there are differing laws that the manufacturers have to research depending whether a consumer returns the gun directly for work or the gun is returned through an FFL. Either way is is a major PITA.

I'm extremely analytical and a former quality control manager. I learned that most problems are simple fixes, but people tend to initially think the problem is bigger than it actually is. My philosophy, start with the simple things first.

My wife bought a new GP100 just around Thanksgiving. She had the same problem david26 decribed the first time at the range, but it was intermittent. The next time she went, no problems at all.

I took it to the range last weekend and it jammed on me too right off the bat. It worked fine when dry fired with no cartridges in the chambers, but as soon as you loaded it, it failed to advance or would advance intermittently.

After I got home I didn't take it apart, but found it curious how it worked differently loaded and unloaded. I grabbed a bucket of expended cartridges I've been saving for the day I start handloadking and loaded the gun. I started dry firing the weapon daily about 100-200 times. Since it has a transfer bar firing mechanism, dry firing won't hurt it.

Initially it jammed quite a bit just like it did at the range, especially when held level or pointed up. When pointed down it worked fine. After a day or two of dry firing with expended cartridges while pointing the gun up or level, the jamming started to go away. After a week now of dry firing the weapon with expended cartridges, it cycles fine with no jams.

If there wasn't a Super Bowl today I'd be at the range testing the gun to see if this easy fix worked or not. I won't have an answer until my next trip and that won't be any time soon. Hopefully this is just a matter of something in the gun breaking in and it isn't a timing problem that will require returning it to Ruger.
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Old 02-01-2009, 03:53 PM   #5
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i did buy it new and i have not slammed it shut.
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Old 02-01-2009, 04:58 PM   #6
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If you bought it new then I would have sent it back also. I'm sure they will make it right but it will probably take time. I would keep bothering them until I got it back. If they kept it over 2 months I would demand my money back or a new gun.
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Old 02-01-2009, 05:21 PM   #7
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I would stay after them,Although when dealing with firearms everthing is a lenghtley process,My first firearm was a gp-100& never had a problem with it, I had mine out yesterday shooting 38's&some hot 357's&that thing is SWEET.If ruger made a gp-100 in 22lr I would have purchased one for my wife instead I purchased a S&W.
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unburned powder under the star is the usual suspect......just a few kernels of powder/sand/dirt can cause this binding. Next time it happens, scrub the hound out of the area under the star and the back-side of the star. Its happened to me before with a smith 65.

keep this area oil-free and dry in all revolvers. This might cure the problem.
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Old 02-01-2009, 10:32 PM   #9
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unburned powder under the star is the usual suspect......just a few kernels of powder/sand/dirt can cause this binding. Next time it happens, scrub the hound out of the area under the star and the back-side of the star. Its happened to me before with a smith 65.

keep this area oil-free and dry in all revolvers. This might cure the problem.
That's good to know. I always clean that area, but it is easy to forget. Definitely worth checking last before putting the gun away after cleaning.
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Old 02-04-2009, 12:22 AM   #10
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Ahhhh, found what is causing the jamming. After dry firing a few hundred times I was finally able to get the chamber to jam using the expended cartridges. I the took all the cartridges out of the chamber and then loaded only one cartridge. I then dry fired it until it made several circuits around the clock (for lack of a better term). I took it out and replaced it with another empty cartridge and did the same thing until I found one that jammed.

When it did jam it was as the cartridge was passing through the frame area at the 6 o'clock position. I was finally able to find several empty cartridges that jammed at that same position. On examination you can see where the cartridges are scraping the frame. You can pull the trigger hard and get the cartridge to eventually advance through that section of the frame so the frame clearance is obviously the problem.

Since that 6 o'clock position on the frame isn't an area that seals anything, I figure I'll get some metal grade sandpaper and work on the area until the jams go away. Shouldn't take too much work at all, but I'll let you know.
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Old 02-04-2009, 09:16 AM   #11
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Did it 'jam up' only with 357mag? If so, when shooting the 38spl you got a buildup in the chamber at the lip. When you put 357mag in the chamber it could not seat completely and the case head was dragging on the recoil shield. Common problem from shooting 38spl in a 357mag.
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Old 02-04-2009, 09:49 AM   #12
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I can't speak for david26, but mine jammed with both 357 and 38s. I know about the chamber buildup from shooting 38s first but appreciate your input. My wife and I have a rule that if we start with 38s, we stay with 38s; if we start with 357s we can end with 38s, but not the other way around.

My last time at the range I started with 357s in the GP100. Jam. Switched guns to my Taurus 357 and had no problem. Went back to the GP later with the 357s and the jamming was intermittent. Later switched to 38s and the GP still jammed.

Definitely a frame clearance problem. The gun is clean and I'm using expended cartridges to cycle the chamber and getting intermittent jamming with certain cartridges. Most cartridges go right on through no problem. I'm keeping the jamming cartridges separate from the others. They always jam when I put them in the gun.

So far I've found Winchester, Blazer, Federal, and American Eagle cartridges that will jam. Once I sand the frame, I'll cycle the jamming cartridges through and see if the sanding clears up the problem.
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Old 02-04-2009, 07:58 PM   #13
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It didnt start till i was using some american eagle 38s and they where causing a lot of fouling all over the out side of the cylinder but it didnt start jamming till i got it home and was just looking it over about to put it up amd noticed that it just was not closing smothly and was not working smothly at all.
Called ruger agian yesterday and they said it was in test fire. I did not know about the build up from 38s thank i will keep that inmind when i get it back .

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Old 02-04-2009, 11:43 PM   #14
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David it will be interesting to see what the work order says when you get it back. They usually put everything on it they adjusted, replaced, or fixed. If you don't mind, let me know here in this thread.

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Old 02-04-2009, 11:53 PM   #15
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David it will be interesting to see what the work order says when you get it back. They usually put everything on it they adjusted, replaced, or fixed. If you don't mind, let me know here in this thread.

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I sure will but iam geting sent to a job in portland so it could be awhile before i am able to get to a computer agian .
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No problem. Have fun in Portland!
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Old 02-05-2009, 09:00 PM   #17
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It actually showed up today and seems to be working great even thow i have not takin it to the range yet. The list they sent said Repaired crane, repaired triger plunger and replaced Hammer strut/Main spring and cleaned and oiled cylinder i dont know how much of that is just things they did because they had to replace the main spring.
But i got my gun back it didnt cost me a thing but some time and i could not be happier
When i picked it up from cabelas I almost left with a S&W model 442 . Got to be carful when i go in there or they wiil end up with my whole pay check

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Thanks for keeping us posted guys !! Very informative !!
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I've never dealt with Ruger customer service. I've only heard good things about them. I'm glad it worked out for you.
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^ Ditto.
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