I saw a converson tube on sportsmans guide that "allows" you to shoot 32 ACP out of a 30-06 308 or 303 brit is this even safe? the bullets arent even the same size! I was whondering before I bought it if it was safe it would be nice to plink with pop squirrels and have fun but the 14 dollar price tag isn't worth mesin up my guns! Thanks for the input!
It is a product that comes and goes from the marketplace for .30-06 owners. I have not heard of it for the .303.
I have never owned one but just observing it come and go I get the feeling it is more of a novelty than a product that gives some type true
performance.
Note the .32 ACP by itself never exactly set the market on fire.
Personally, I have never chosen to buy one yet I do not recall reading any reports of damage to a rifle barrel from this product.
DON"T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT. I RUINED A PERFECTLY GOOD REM 7400.. THE DAMN ADAPTER STUCK IN THE CHAMBER AND WOULDN'T BUDGE. MY SMITH TRIED AND TRIED. ENDED UP HAVING TO BUY A NEW BARREL... SPORTSMANS GUIDE TOOK NO RESPOSABILITY AT ALL. OFFERED MY $$ BACK IF I SENT THE ADAPTER BACK. TOKD THEM THEY'DE GET THE BARREL AND THE ADAPTER AND THE DIDN'T WANT IT. SO AS WELL AS BEING OUT THE COST OF A BARREL I ALSO GOT PORKED THE COST OF THE ADAPTER. AGAIN DO NOT DO IT.
Sorry to hear about that jadek.
I guess that answers all questions
about adapters. Some people may
have had good results with'em but
they're not worth the gamble.
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That was the vibe I was getting... there is a reason the disclamer states USE ONLY AMMUNITION EXACTLY MATCHING RIFLE but what do I know? I just thought I would check b/c yall seem to have exp. in these fields!
I saw a converson tube on sportsmans guide that "allows" you to shoot 32 ACP out of a 30-06 308 or 303 brit is this even safe? the bullets arent even the same size! I was whondering before I bought it if it was safe it would be nice to plink with pop squirrels and have fun but the 14 dollar price tag isn't worth mesin up my guns! Thanks for the input!
The .30-06 and .308 use .308 diameter bullets. The .303 British uses .311 diameter bullets. The .32 acp uses .311-.312 diameter bullets.
Since the .32 acp runs about 10k-15k CUP while the .30-06 runs 50k+ CUP I don't think you will strain anything by doing it.
I don't know about the adapter getting stuck, but the diameter and the pressure is not a problem.
well Bitmap my thought was not blowing a barrel up or anything, my thought was that since the bulet is .03 to .04 larger there will be more pressure due to swagging the bullet then the extra friction might keep the bullet in the barrel...
I thought about getting one too, but just looking at it I had an uneasy feeling. It looks like it will mar or distort your chamber, or get stuck, so I decided to pass. Think, most cartridges are relatively soft, so they get scratched or disfigured, not your chamber.
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well Bitmap my thought was not blowing a barrel up or anything, my thought was that since the bulet is .03 to .04 larger there will be more pressure due to swagging the bullet then the extra friction might keep the bullet in the barrel...
I would be very surprised if that happened. I don't think the friction would be anywhere close to overcoming the pressure from the burning propellant and leave the bullet stuck in the bore.
I'm also surprised to hear about them getting stuck in chambers. I've know people that used an adapter to convert a .30-06 to .308 and the complaint was they couldn't get it to stay in the chamber. In fact I googled it up and found this link to another forum: .308 chamber inserts? - TheFiringLine Forums
From that post FWIW "the .32 rounds were 90gr. They chrono'd at about 975 fps."
I don't believe the guy in that thread talking about firing .308 in a .30-06 chambered M1 because the M1 doesn't have controlled feed, but it's an interesting discussion.
The inserts that got stuck must be poorly designed and made to have that happen. My first thought was that the adapter expanded on firing and that made it stick. the chamber of a .30-06 in the head area must be bigger in diameter than the outside of most .32acp handgun barrels, so if that is happening then the adapter must have been very soft metal.
would your action properly chamber the 32acp or would you have to manualy feed close bolt shoot and pick it out after each firing ?
The action would probably chamber and
extract the adapter. But there has to be
some flaw in the adapter design. I used to
see these adapters in magazines years ago.
Outdoor Life I think. They also had .30 M1
carbine for .30-06.
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I bought one, (yep all 15 bucks). I used it in a remington 710 bolt action rifle normaly chambered in .30-06. I bought it came with a page of directions basicaly saying that they made it slightly large at the base and i would need to sand around it to make it fit right, so i took some 400 grit and sanded around the base(read outside about .25 inches above primer), till it fit in my chamber nicely. Initialy I could not lever the bolt down with ease to I read teh directions(yep), sanded it, tried again wasnt easy to push bolt down, repeat sanding, abotu 5 times, then it fit OK was slightly fat and i could see the small scrape marks so i pulled it out and again I sanded, re-try and it worked with no scrape marks. took it to the range with a box of Fiocci .32 acp 71gr. Opened the bolt put the .32 in the "cartridge" and closed it(took some finagaling to get it started since there was no bullet protruding to start up the feed ramp). sighted in on a 25 meter target and fired. It made a "put-oo" sound round came out with decent accuracy, was about a half inch to the right of my aim point, and 6 inches low, did a 3 shot group, adjusted my scope and put 5 shots in a 2 inch square at 25 meters. At 50 meters the groups really opened up (read a foot or more), I kept thinking that I was seeing the bullet, and hearing it hit paper(really a quiet setup). At 100 yards I was about 3.5 feet low, and all over with accuracy, I could see the bullets in flight, and distinctive "put-oo"... "whap" could be heard indicating really slow bullets at 100 yards. recoil was slightly more than my 10/22 ruger. the adapter was worth the 15 bucks, given how funny it was to hear my rifle make that sound. I still laugh. the agrivation of sanding was worth it but just wish that it was a better setup to start with.
Also after i used it for half a box, and confidant that my new scope was roughly sighted in I opened up a box of 180 grain softpoint game shocks, and I and the rifle could still hit my 2 inch square at 100 yards. Was kinda a change to go from a super light recoil to somthing real. definitly was a cheap way to get a scope zeroed in for everything except elevation(which was really close actually since i didnt change after the 25 yard mark zeroing)
