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I recently gave an informative speech just on guns. I just went over different information about the uses such as target, hunting, and self defense, and I told the class how many guns I owned. The class didn't seem to mind whatsoever but the professor from Minnesota or something was a little timid. I probably would have gotten a better grade if I talked about what different types of graffiti is out there or what I should expect to pay to get a tatoo, but I would rather talk about something important even if I don't get as high of a grade. I don't know what is up with people and guns these days, they all think marijuana is cool but guns are evil somehow. Whatever.
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+1!^ They always err on the side of the professor! In my opinion, the prof should have recieved unpaid leave, and required to go through the eval, herself! Another of these nutcase profs comes to mind, ya'll remember Ward Churchhill? Yeah, the self declared "native American"? The tribe he claimed to be a part of, came out and said there was no connection with them, whatsoever! Why wasn't he immediately dismissed as a liar, who can't get the facts straight? No, they let him continue to teach his twisted views, to our future generation!
Seabee- After O'Reilly got after him and CU, he was canned. It took a little time, but he got his comeuppance.
Don't see much of old Ward these days. I think the news folks said they wouldn't cover him till he did something about his appearance. I heard, but have no idea if it is true, that a cock-a-roach came out of his hair during one interview and made several reporters sick.
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Seabee- After O'Reilly got after him and CU, he was canned. It took a little time, but he got his comeuppance.
Don't see much of old Ward these days. I think the news folks said they wouldn't cover him till he did something about his appearance. I heard, but have no idea if it is true, that a cock-a-roach came out of his hair during one interview and made several reporters sick.
Tom
Oh, Lord. Is Bill "Shut Up" O'Reilly claiming credit for Ward Churchill's scalp, too? That's like a cock thinking the sun rises because he was crowing...
I would suppose everyone would want this professor fired if the call hadn't been made and another shooting on campus occurred by this individual. We don't know how the presentation was made and how it was perceived by the professor or the other students. I guess since Columbine and shootings elsewhere, we need to be extra careful in how others perceive our talk and actions. Try wearing a sidearm to a 5 year olds soccer game in plain sight. Legal or not, someones gonna complain.
It's high time to start picking our battles more carefully.
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I would suppose everyone would want this professor fired if the call hadn't been made and another shooting on campus occurred by this individual. We don't know how the presentation was made and how it was perceived by the professor or the other students. I guess since Columbine and shootings elsewhere, we need to be extra careful in how others perceive our talk and actions. Try wearing a sidearm to a 5 year olds soccer game in plain sight. Legal or not, someones gonna complain.
It's high time to start picking our battles more carefully.
I don't think we need to 'pick our battles' so carefully that a student becomes afraid to give a presentation on why he thinks CCW should be allowed on campuses.
See what 's happening, you're catching up fast with the UK!
Registration always comes before confiscation!
They have the lists, they could arrive at the door any time to collect them!!
There are plenty of states that do not require registration and even more that only require what is known as part registration (like obtaining a permit to buy beforehand).
Then there are states that pretty much have no regulations on registration at all, but you are held responsible for what you do with your firearms.
I lost my copy of the Agenda, A-FIXER. Can you tell me where to get another one?
I was going to just wait for the next Gay-Liberal Media Agenda Convention to pick one up, but I forgot where they're holding it this year...
No worries, I'll email you a copy of mine.
Now, while I am curious as to what the student said in his presentation, it would have to have been awfully inflammatory for this to be even a vaguely rational response.
I have my doubts that was the case, though.
What bothers me the most is that the police in this case took it to this level and made the fact that he owed firearms an issue. They are not illegal items and I'm not certain there isn't a lawsuit waiting to happen on the student's behalf not because of the teacher, but because of the LEOs and the psyche eval he had to take just because he was a gun-owner.
Now, while I am curious as to what the student said in his presentation, it would have to have been awfully inflammatory for this to be even a vaguely rational response.
I have my doubts that was the case, though.
What bothers me the most is that the police in this case took it to this level and made the fact that he owed firearms an issue. They are not illegal items and I'm not certain there isn't a lawsuit waiting to happen on the student's behalf not because of the teacher, but because of the LEOs and the psyche eval he had to take just because he was a gun-owner.
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Separate cases, Coel. This student didn't have to take a psych evaluation. That happened at Hamline College in Minnesota a couple of years ago.
I'm not at all surprised by this, It happened to me last year. The teacher originally flunked me for the assignment citing "promoting murder is not acceptable". I eventually got it reversed and her FIRED. It was actually one of the students who went to the police about me and told them that I had a gun on me and showed it to everyone. When it turned out that I did not have a gun and everyone but her denyed seeing one on me, she was charged with filing a false police report.
The cops wanted me to take a psych eval. I told them that I would be happy to, as soon as I was formally and officially charged and my attorney was present. They didn't bother persuing the issue.
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... I don't think this is anything more than a professor attempting to swing her political opinion on guns to make a statement, and missing badly. I hope they did fire her.
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[quote=troy2000;820053]I lost my copy of the Agenda, A-FIXER. Can you tell me where to get another one?
I was going to just wait for the next Gay-Liberal Media Agenda Convention to pick one up, but I forgot where they're holding it this year...[/quote]
Troy,
Now come on you know Berkley is the only place that would host such a thing......that is why it is held there every year.....
Believe it or not...I can see this from both sides. I think that calling the police was ridiculous for sure. However in a society where we attack everyone and everything but the one person who was responsible, the professor may have felt the need to cover her backside. This is probably not the case but I am practicing seeing everything from the other sides point of view ..how am I doing.
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I think she did it out of fear that there may be a mass murder at her university. Plain and simple I think.
Lark,
You may be right but you have to admit that the leap from students should be allowed to cc on campus all the way to I am going to shoot you all is a big leap.
That is unless the student said in the course of his presentation you should be allowed to carry on campus because I may shoot you all
P.S. you don't need to explain what you were Trying to say, I got it just could not resist the joke
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I think it is kind of a joke, but to sit there and look at the big picture I see her concerns. I work for an inner city school district where gang activity is present. They even get funneled through metal detectors every day. With out proper security in place I might even feel more paranoid.
I understand the reasoning, but I would give the college kid the benefit of the doubt if they seemed like a non threat. If I could not tell I might call the cops. I understand her position and I think it isn't political just fear of self preservation is all.
I have to wonder if she called the police without going through the university channels for concerns. It sounds like she just jumped to the head of the line, so to speak, or did not get the response she wanted from the department chair, the Dean, or anyone else, so just acted on her own.
As such, particularly since her actions resulted in negative publicity for the university, I would hope she gets at least a private reprimand. Nothing public will happen, as is common in education, where closing ranks and handling things internally seems to be the norm, lest people outside the university sphere think something is not perfect in the ivory tower of academia.
My son had an English prof at Akron U. here in Ohio who was quite publicly liberal and strongly Democrat. He wrote a paper for her, and she criticized the content, not the writing, while lowering his grade. He's a pretty conservative kid and often disagreed with her comments in class, where she did all she could to influence the students as the elections approached.
It has been my experience that most campuses, generally known for idealism and tolerance are very tolerant of everything except disagreement with the liberal train of thought.
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