03-23-2009, 06:17 PM
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#21 | | Firearm Zealot
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There are good alternatives to gas-powered vehicles for serious bugouts. Bicycles towing light-weight trailers, man-pulled 'game carts', a dufflebag on a golf-bag cart, etc. These would allow a much greater BO gear capacity.
Larger dogs, even goats can carry small bags - let Rover pack his OWN food!
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03-24-2009, 01:10 PM
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LOL. I laughed so hard at the dude in those videos.
I love how he has the thigh holster and the slung shotgun, as if this is some sort of Call of Duty 4 Xbox Live scenario where he needs that kind of firepower.
Look out folks, this is just another armchair warrior play acting at soldiers.
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03-24-2009, 05:06 PM
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#23 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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Originally Posted by ExecOutcomes  | LOL. I laughed so hard at the dude in those videos.
I love how he has the thigh holster and the slung shotgun, as if this is some sort of Call of Duty 4 Xbox Live scenario where he needs that kind of firepower.
Look out folks, this is just another armchair warrior play acting at soldiers. | Really? It's people like you that will be caught off guard looking for help from a guy like him or me.
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03-24-2009, 06:07 PM
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Because, you know, an SHTF event is going to happen.
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03-24-2009, 06:13 PM
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#25 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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Originally Posted by ExecOutcomes | Because, you know, an SHTF event is going to happen. | Can you foretell the future and say something won't happen? Just wondering though why are you here in a survivalist discussion forum? To make fun of those that atre prepareing for the worst hoping it will never happen?
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03-24-2009, 06:19 PM
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| Keep fantasizing about an SHTF event. There's nothing wrong with preparedness but this guy is ridiculous. The fact that you guys seem to be waiting for something bad to happen so you can kill people is idiotic. It's like we're dealing with a bunch of pre-Timothy McVeighs on this forum.
The simple fact is that an SHTF event as you all fantasize about it is not going to happen.
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03-24-2009, 06:46 PM
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#27 | | Firearm Zealot
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how come everytime someone mentions the term "SHTF", people automaticaly assume that the "someone" is going to start killing everyone in sight... guns and ammo make up a small part of a whole system, to either scavange for food, forage or to protect ones self and others... not to engage the enemy, or an opposing force if thats what you want join the military, national guard or your local militia.
if you are here just to make fun of those who are here to supply information that could help, then you are in the wrong forum and should take your opinions to another section of this wonderful site... but if your not here to belittle anyone and truely have an opinion on this matter, then sorry for jumping you...
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03-24-2009, 07:20 PM
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#28 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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Originally Posted by ExecOutcomes | Keep fantasizing about an SHTF event. There's nothing wrong with preparedness but this guy is ridiculous. The fact that you guys seem to be waiting for something bad to happen so you can kill people is idiotic. It's like we're dealing with a bunch of pre-Timothy McVeighs on this forum.
The simple fact is that an SHTF event as you all fantasize about it is not going to happen. | I tell you what you take what you have and hope nothing will happen, and I will take what I have and hope nothing will happen, guess who will make it if it does happen. No one is hurting anyone or anything by being prepared. Those that are not prepared are only hurting themself and those around them. Are you so sure nothing going to happen? The federal government yesterday just created ONE TRILLION dollars from out of thin air. This happen one time before. If it happens again most will not make it. Most do not know how to grow their own food. Back in the 30's people for the most part could provise for themself. Sorry for the edit but I didn't catch this part
"The fact that you guys seem to be waiting for something bad to happen so you can kill people is idiotic." And you say that's idiotic anyone who would make such a comment would be the idiot. Wow something bad just happened now I can go out and kill someone. oh brother!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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03-25-2009, 07:59 AM
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#29 | | Firearm Zealot
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Tell the folks who just lost their jobs and their homes that SHTF doesn't happen. Tell the family who had their home invaded, a family member killed.... that SHTF doesn't happen.
We very much hope to NEVER have to kill anyone. But if it comes to it, a person does what he/she has to. Defense is only a SMALL part of 'survival'.
Making sure your family has shelter, food, water and their health is more important in the long run.
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03-25-2009, 08:02 AM
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Thanks Big Dog,...
...SHTF comes dressed in a varied attire.
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03-25-2009, 12:42 PM
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We were severely affected by Hurricane Ike; fences destroyed, barns had roofs ripped off, trees leveled etc. No one in Houston was shooting their way out of anything loaded down with stupid cheap tactical gear from eBay.
I've been affected by a "SHTF" event, so shut up if you're thinking I'm someone who's never gone through it before.
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03-25-2009, 12:51 PM
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#32 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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Hello everyone. Like everything people are involved with there are some that go to extremes. If that is what you were trying to point out ExecOutcome then I have to agree. On the other hand you could have made your point by being less abrasive.
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03-25-2009, 12:54 PM
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#33 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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Ahh good point! What happened to all those poor people fleeing Houston, stuck in a traffic jam who ran out of gas?
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03-25-2009, 01:14 PM
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#34 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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But seriously, let's get back on track. Good stuff Ron, thanks for sharing.
I have a question for those more experienced in creating BOBs. When is it to much? When I was creating a BOB I first bought a backpack from, yes eBay and yet when I received it I noticed it was to small for my needs. So I stomped around the internet and found a larger one and bought it also off eBay. Yet when I began to load it with all the stuff folks recommended I began to become alarmed at how much it weighted. It went from a Bug out Bag to a Slow walk for a bit and and rest Bag. The sad part is I hadn't added food or water yet. Then I realized that this large pack would be destined to be placed in the car only for just in case.
So it struck me when is it to much? I liked a previous poster's concept of having a A,B, and C bug out bag. But seriously I'd like to hear more on the subject so fire away.
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03-25-2009, 01:58 PM
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#35 | | Firearm Zealot
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| Cinadel Welcome to G&G glad to have your input...
Your B-O-B will depend on your enviroment and what you plan on doing... are you bugging out to a friends or to your parents or to the woods?... how long will you be in the woods a day, a week or longer? It all depends on what u take.
Example i live in the desert, during spring, summer and early fall wont need a tent just a tarp and maybe a sleeping bag if i want one, if not, a thermal blanket will suffice... but i will need to carry more water then say some one up north. See what i mean, make a list of everything you think you need and then go over it see how big it is and where it will fit in a b-o-b and go from there... but if you look back into the boards you should come across lots of references to bob's and whats in them. Me personaly i am allways changing stuff removing and adding as to what i need and i have more then one b-o-b just depends on whats going on.
the A, B and C line of thinking is an awesome concept let me find a link for you... http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/sur...ar-layers.html
this was posted by one of the older members hope this solves one question of many im sure...
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03-25-2009, 02:19 PM
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#36 | | Firearm Zealot
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My basic "Bug Out Bag" is what I can carry on my KLR650 dual sport bike - in a storm evac situation (about the ONLY reason for me leaving home) I won't be limited to the highways. I can carry enough gear for a week - longer with laundry and restock capability. I have my 'escape routes' planned, mapped and test ridden. I DO NOT plan on having to shoot anyone. Not to say I won't be armed - but you won't see it displayed.
If I did have to take off on foot, I do have a good backpack ready to go - but my health will make it slow going with rest stops often. This would be absolute 'last ditch' though. 
How many have done the basic "Grab it and GO NOW!" BO drill? Without warning, you drop everything, and head out with your BOB for a quick 'over-nighter' to test the readiness of your gear. It can be an eye-opener. You learn what you forgot and what you really don't need. Especially good done with a family unit. 
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03-25-2009, 05:09 PM
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Thanks for the replies guys. A seasonal BOB never crossed my mind until now thanks. I live in northern Louisiana so the temperatures don't change drastically and the only major climate concern would be in the summer when it's extremely hot and humid.
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03-25-2009, 05:54 PM
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#38 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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Originally Posted by ExecOutcomes | We were severely affected by Hurricane Ike; fences destroyed, barns had roofs ripped off, trees leveled etc. No one in Houston was shooting their way out of anything loaded down with stupid cheap tactical gear from eBay.
I've been affected by a "SHTF" event, so shut up if you're thinking I'm someone who's never gone through it before. |
There you go again with the bang bang shoot'em up thing again. Wow you think what you went through is bad? I have lived through several Hurricanes Hugo being one of them. I guess the people in New Orleans wished they would have had that man with them. The cheap tactical gear thing speaks volumes on your part, you just don't have a clue.
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03-25-2009, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Cinadel | Hello everyone. Like everything people are involved with there are some that go to extremes. If that is what you were trying to point out ExecOutcome then I have to agree. On the other hand you could have made your point by being less abrasive. | I wouldn't call him extreme just prepared. He has a plan. The bug out part for what he has is not for bad weather conditions. He's prepared to bug out due to any man made disasters. or if the government starts doing to the people what happen in the 30's such as Germany.
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03-25-2009, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Cinadel | Thanks for the replies guys. A seasonal BOB never crossed my mind until now thanks. I live in northern Louisiana so the temperatures don't change drastically and the only major climate concern would be in the summer when it's extremely hot and humid. | You may also want to concider the area that you picked that you are going to. Do you have the clothes for that area to live confortably? What about good clean drinking water. Is it near anything that could contaminate your water source and food source?
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