Yup, he was. I am liking him less and less every day. Anyway, what is the argument? Why are they stopping the use of the death penalty? I have heard that it is too expensive or something. But, if you calculate the cost per year per prisoner, about $30,000 and say they are in there for 6 consecutive life sentences and die after 60 years in there, then that is about $1.8 million. Is the death penalty more expensive than that?
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If we used the death penalty more often (maybe for drunk drivers for their 20 offense) maybe we would have a safer state!!! We need to vote Richardson out!!! I heard today that Val Kilmer, Heather Wilson, and 2 others are putting their name in the race. About 4 Dems and 1 Rep.
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Yea, Richardson was an OK governor for things like education other state run entities but I think his time has come. I never did like it when he bought a $3 million dollar table for his office and that private jet for him and his staff. Neeext!
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After his failed presidential bid(like he ever stood a chance) Richardson sees the train and repealing the death penalty as his legacy. I don't understand why anyone is ever surprised by the things he does. He's always been a carpetbagger from New Jersey.
In all fairness, though, Heather could also be called a carpetbagger.
Richardson, I believe, wants to stake out some type liberal legacy for himself. Seems strange in that he failed to get key liberal support for his major office attempts.
Richardson, I believe, wants to stake out some type liberal legacy for himself. Seems strange in that he failed to get key liberal support for his major office attempts.
Maybe they found out about the 3 million dollar desk the tax payers bought for him for his office and the private jet that he bought for himself and his cabinet.
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Colorado is now talking about the repealing ours too. I think they referenced New Mexico in their bid. Made it sound like everyone is doing it and we need to jump on the bandwagon.
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Yup, he was. I am liking him less and less every day. Anyway, what is the argument? Why are they stopping the use of the death penalty? I have heard that it is too expensive or something. But, if you calculate the cost per year per prisoner, about $30,000 and say they are in there for 6 consecutive life sentences and die after 60 years in there, then that is about $1.8 million. Is the death penalty more expensive than that?
Yes, it is.
A few years ago, a study was done - can't remember by whom, but I think it was 60 Minutes - that figured out how much money it took to get a condemned convict from sentencing to the gurney with a needle in his arm. It worked out to about $3 million and 15 years, what with the appeals process. The same study calculated that the total cost to keep an inmate jailed in a maximum security prison was $50,000 a year.
Do the math. $3,000,000 divided by $50,000/year = 60 years. That's a lot longer than the average prisoner lives after getting life without parole, especially the older ones. And there aren't that many escapes from state and federal prisons. As a rule, someone locked up in an American prison stays locked up until the prison system decides to let them out.
The goal of the death penalty is to remove the dangerous killers from the larger society. Locking them up behind the walls so they never breathe free air again accomplishes this, and without tying up legal resources better applied elsewhere. And it eliminates the moral issue of rightness in executing prisoners.
So why wouldn't New Mexico do away with the death penalty? It makes simple economic sense and does away with the moral issue of capital punishment. From a political point of view, it's a win-win. Therefore, you shouldn't be surprised it's been eliminated.
Hmm... In the current system, then yes, it is cheaper to get rid of it. However, if someone murdered children or what not and was proven guilty with a bunch of evidence and there was no question whether or not they did it, then they should be shot on the spot or something. It wouldn't cost hardly anything and a sick freak would never be able to harm anyone again. Being behind a concrete wall in a prison still leaves that 0.01% chance of them escaping and doing it again. I would rather them have a 0.000000...% chance of doing it again.
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Oh, I agree with you, Cremley. The problem is that this is not the best of all possible worlds, where an animal such as you describe would get an hour with the clergyman of his choice, be manacled and then taken out behind the courthouse and shot through the back of the head with a large-caliber handgun. (My idea of appropriate punishment for creatures like that.) Under our present system, my figures of $3 million and 15 years are correct for locking a criminal up in a maximum security prison in general population.
Some people say, "So make the %#&@~ suffer. Lock him up in a Supermax prison where he gets to leave his cell for 1 hour a day and has no human contact." That costs more and is generally reserved for prison troublemakers, terrorists, serial killers and the notorious like Charles Manson. Maximum security is harsh enough for the purposes of life without parole; we don't need to waste Supermax space on folks such as you described.
Besides, in prison child molesters and child murderers don't fare well. Most of them are killed within six years of sentencing by fellow prisoners who were themselves molested as children, or by folks who don't like child-killers. And from what I've heard, prison authorities don't try too hard to find the killers of such vermin. They don't like such vermin either.
Hmm... In the current system, then yes, it is cheaper to get rid of it. However, if someone murdered children or what not and was proven guilty with a bunch of evidence and there was no question whether or not they did it, then they should be shot on the spot or something. It wouldn't cost hardly anything and a sick freak would never be able to harm anyone again. Being behind a concrete wall in a prison still leaves that 0.01% chance of them escaping and doing it again. I would rather them have a 0.000000...% chance of doing it again.
^+1 Don't forget that the taxpayers are footing the bill! If we 86ed all the death row people, we could put a dent in the Trillions that the guy I didn't vote is spending!
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[QUOTE=Cyrano;883136]Oh, I agree with you, Cremley. The problem is that this is not the best of all possible worlds, where an animal such as you describe would get an hour with the clergyman of his choice, be manacled and then taken out behind the courthouse and shot through the back of the head with a large-caliber handgun. (My idea of appropriate punishment for creatures like that.)
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I like the idea of taking them up on a military aircraft and booting them out at 20K feet. Give them a little time to think about it before the lights go out.
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[quote=Yogi;884199][QUOTE=Cyrano;883136]Oh, I agree with you, Cremley. The problem is that this is not the best of all possible worlds, where an animal such as you describe would get an hour with the clergyman of his choice, be manacled and then taken out behind the courthouse and shot through the back of the head with a large-caliber handgun. (My idea of appropriate punishment for creatures like that.)
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I like the idea of taking them up on a military aircraft and booting them out at 20K feet. Give them a little time to think about it before the lights go out.
Hahaha!!
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Richardson is Pro-Illegals...I don't care for him for that reason. Vote him out please...A.H
Don't worry about him AH. We will just say that he was involved in some stuff that he will most likely go to jail for. It might not be right away but it is coming.
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