04-02-2009, 05:05 PM
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#21 | | Firearm Zealot
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Originally Posted by wunhunglo  | Of course there is always the Supremely Viable 10/22 which can shoot out to 1 mile in the right hands. | LMFAO!! The Supremely Viable 10/22 lives on!  
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04-02-2009, 06:28 PM
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#22 | | Firearm Zealot
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How bout dropping the term "SNIPER" from your heading.
Why is it everyone who wants to get into precision long distance target shooting begins their postings with the word sniper?
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04-02-2009, 06:43 PM
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#23 | | Firearm Zealot
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Originally Posted by SPOCAHP ANAR | How bout dropping the term "SNIPER" from your heading.
Why is it everyone who wants to get into precision long distance target shooting begins their postings with the word sniper? | i dunno.
i have a very accurate spooky black bull barreled precision target rifle tho...... 
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04-02-2009, 07:06 PM
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#24 | | Firearm Zealot
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Thanks for your suggestions but no thanks to your condescending attitude.
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04-02-2009, 07:12 PM
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#25 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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I know 338 isn't the best caliber for such distances.. the Savage 12 F 6.5 x 284 NORMA is really accurate and around $1300 (Savage Arms 12F Class Precision Target Rifle Series)
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04-02-2009, 07:56 PM
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#26 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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its hard to find a gun under 1000 dollars that can shoot that far
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04-02-2009, 08:56 PM
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#27 | | Firearm Aficionado
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Originally Posted by Justgoto | What is with people on this sight being so negative?
If you don't know of any rifle or scope that can do this, move on. Sheesh! | Not so much negative as just REALISTIC. One mile is a looong ways and then you need a safety zone beyond for the shoots that are over. Kinda like walking in artillery.
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04-02-2009, 08:59 PM
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#28 | | Firearm Zealot
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I probably should have added, at 600 yards I can not see the strikes on the target even if at 24x magnification. My buddy and I that shoot long range (well attempt too) use radios and which ever of us isn't shooting is down range about 100 yards away from the target and 50 yards left or right depending on the wind radioing back where the hits and misses were. There isn't much chance of us getting hit but we still duck behind the engine and front tire.
Also based on some of the stuff we have read on really long range. When shooting that far a barrel is only good for maybe 300 shots before your group will get noticeably larger and has to be conditioned perfectly. Your barrel for the 1 mile shot will be very expensive.
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04-03-2009, 01:23 AM
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#29 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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Look people, reading is key here!
I never said, "Hey people, I never shot a gun before and I want to shoot 1 mile, help me out!"
Never said it! What is with people on the internet not being able to read? Anyone that doesn't read the post will be ignored.
Obviously I will be working my way up to extreme distances, I obviously know it is a challenging and expensive "hobby"/endeavor, that is why I would like to get a rifle that can preform better than my other 3 rifles which I have had for 35 f'n years! That YouTube is me shooting at a 6 inch wide target at 500 yards in a 30mph windstorm with peep sights! I think I can handle that with a scope! What do you think, you're the experts?
I shoot every day... EVERY F'N DAY! I have my own 300 yard range, and neighbors that have miles and miles of land that let me shoot on it.
I shoot in hail storms, I shoot in wind storms I shoot in snow storms, rain storms, only night stops me from shooting... I have probably shot more cartridges than most marksmen with thousands of dollar rigs. I understand the expense! That is why I want something more accurate and your inability to read is not helping!
I have come to the conclusion that I have reached my peak with the tools I have; and have decided to purchase better ones! If you people don't have any suggestions, keep your assumptions to yourselves!
Went out today and shot a group of three with my 30-30 to video the shots group. Anyone that thinks I cannot tighten that group to 1moa with a better rifle and a decent scope is dishonest.
And anyone that thinks I should go back 35 years to a scoped 22 is, is... forget it. YouTube - 3shots200yards3030c http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...5inchstart.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...nchgroupsm.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...5inchgroup.jpg
Here is the 30-06 group I shot to see how much I needed to adjust the sight in preparation for my first 400 yard shot., Shot at 200 yards with a peep sight. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...g/grouping.jpg
That is 3 inches, 1.5 MOA; *PEEP SIGHTS* (the hole in the center is 1 inch diameter.)
So yeah, at 400 yards I can hit every 3rd time with my 30-30... YouTube - 400 Yard Winchester 30-30 Shot
...and about 50% of the time with my 30-06. YouTube - 400yd 30-06 Peep Sight
I want to hit at 500 yards at least 90% of the time, then progress to 600, 700, then 800... Get it? How many more paragraphs do I need to write before I get "realistic?"
Then, I don't want to buy a larger rifle when I progress past the 223's range. Is any of this getting "realistic" to you people yet? Does it sound less expensive to buy one rifle or two? Especially when I have a rifle that can outshoot a 223 now.
Or should I just continue-on, missing at 700 yards with my peep sight? YouTube - Eddystone Model of 1917 30-06 at 700 Yards
Yeah, talk about getting expensive... I get that close or closer 50% of the time. I just don't want to throw another box of cartridges at it so I can say, "I got lucky and hit it! Yippee!"
Now, I would like a suggestion for a rifle and scope that is capable of hitting that every time and able to go further so I don't have to buy another rifle a week later. Is that too much to ask?
I really do appreciate the people that actually read the post and didn't go off half-cocked! Thank you! I wish everyone could read; that way I wouldn't have had to write all of this and upload all the pictures and videos.
Bye!
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04-03-2009, 01:27 AM
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#30 | | Firearm Zealot
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You have a really bad F'N attitude....
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04-03-2009, 01:46 AM
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#31 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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WOW congrats! You only have 1060 (One Thousand Sixty... in case you can't read) yards to go and by the looks of that 700 yard shot you should be within a tenth of a mile... W O W - We are all impressed!
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04-03-2009, 02:36 AM
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#32 | | Firearm Zealot
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justgoto i have read all of the post's on your question and you were given some real good advice. i see that you only have 10 post's on this forum , your attitude is very
beligerent and if you don't like the answers or the advice THEN LEAVE THE FORUM. we don't need people like you on this site.
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04-03-2009, 04:44 AM
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#33 | | Firearm Zealot
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Originally Posted by Justgoto Look people, reading is key here!
I never said, "Hey people, I never shot a gun before and I want to shoot 1 mile, help me out!"
Never said it! What is with people on the internet not being able to read? Anyone that doesn't read the post will be ignored.
Obviously I will be working my way up to extreme distances, I obviously know it is a challenging and expensive "hobby"/endeavor, that is why I would like to get a rifle that can preform better than my other 3 rifles which I have had for 35 f'n years! That YouTube is me shooting at a 6 inch wide target at 500 yards in a 30mph windstorm with peep sights! I think I can handle that with a scope! What do you think, you're the experts?
I shoot every day... EVERY F'N DAY! I have my own 300 yard range, and neighbors that have miles and miles of land that let me shoot on it.
I shoot in hail storms, I shoot in wind storms I shoot in snow storms, rain storms, only night stops me from shooting... I have probably shot more cartridges than most marksmen with thousands of dollar rigs. I understand the expense! That is why I want something more accurate and your inability to read is not helping!
I have come to the conclusion that I have reached my peak with the tools I have; and have decided to purchase better ones! If you people don't have any suggestions, keep your assumptions to yourselves!
Went out today and shot a group of three with my 30-30 to video the shots group. Anyone that thinks I cannot tighten that group to 1moa with a better rifle and a decent scope is dishonest.
And anyone that thinks I should go back 35 years to a scoped 22 is, is... forget it. YouTube - 3shots200yards3030c http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...5inchstart.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...nchgroupsm.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...5inchgroup.jpg
Here is the 30-06 group I shot to see how much I needed to adjust the sight in preparation for my first 400 yard shot., Shot at 200 yards with a peep sight. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...g/grouping.jpg
That is 3 inches, 1.5 MOA; *PEEP SIGHTS* (the hole in the center is 1 inch diameter.)
So yeah, at 400 yards I can hit every 3rd time with my 30-30... YouTube - 400 Yard Winchester 30-30 Shot
...and about 50% of the time with my 30-06. YouTube - 400yd 30-06 Peep Sight
I want to hit at 500 yards at least 90% of the time, then progress to 600, 700, then 800... Get it? How many more paragraphs do I need to write before I get "realistic?"
Then, I don't want to buy a larger rifle when I progress past the 223's range. Is any of this getting "realistic" to you people yet? Does it sound less expensive to buy one rifle or two? Especially when I have a rifle that can outshoot a 223 now.
Or should I just continue-on, missing at 700 yards with my peep sight? YouTube - Eddystone Model of 1917 30-06 at 700 Yards
Yeah, talk about getting expensive... I get that close or closer 50% of the time. I just don't want to throw another box of cartridges at it so I can say, "I got lucky and hit it! Yippee!"
Now, I would like a suggestion for a rifle and scope that is capable of hitting that every time and able to go further so I don't have to buy another rifle a week later. Is that too much to ask?
I really do appreciate the people that actually read the post and didn't go off half-cocked! Thank you! I wish everyone could read; that way I wouldn't have had to write all of this and upload all the pictures and videos.
Bye! | You only asked about a rifle and scope but you are going to need bullets with a high BC,as close to .700 as possible. I would sugest a Sako in .338 Lapua and a Nightforce scope in 12x42x56mm Benchrest.There are others but this one I know about.The nxs is nice but half again as high priced.I would prefer a custom singleshot bolt action with a custom 30"heavy barrel and quality benchrest synthetic stock,but that gets into more money. sam.
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04-03-2009, 06:13 AM
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#34 | | Firearm Zealot
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these kind of threads crack me up.
most people have no idea how far away even 1000 yds. is let alone a mile.
here are some 1000 yd. targets.
they are 9 feet tall and 5 wide.
be honest can you even tell what they are? 
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04-03-2009, 06:33 AM
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#35 | | Firearm Zealot
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justgoto
you have been given some good solid realistic advice.
take it or leave it.
the imaginary 1 mile $1000 rifle you want us to tell you about doesnt exist.
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04-03-2009, 06:36 AM
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#36 | | Firearm Zealot
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04-03-2009, 06:53 AM
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#37 | | Firearm Zealot
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It's them damn internet yards again!
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04-03-2009, 07:59 AM
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#38 | | Firearm Zealot
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Alright billy I will play. Those targets at the bottom of the hill look like the ones we were shooting that were almost 600 yards away but you said they are bigger, so I am guessing 500 yards. I don't imagine I could see 1000 yard targets that size so I guessed you stuck them in the clearing. How bad did I fail.
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04-03-2009, 09:32 AM
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#39 | | Firearm Zealot
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I can (could when I was younger) see an 18"bullseye at 1000yds but it's only a white blur on a black background. sam.
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04-03-2009, 11:02 AM
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#40 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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These guys most always give good advice, and most people don't take to kind to bad attitudes, they told you what they thought. Maybe they don't know a specific rifle. Maybe they told you a caliber, or scope or something else. I would imagine, don't know for sure, that it would take a .50bmg or something that large, with a very large scope. Also a spotter. I have read about hunting at that range, with that caliber, but don't recall the magazine or rifle they were shooting. They went with three people. On checking wind, one checking distance, and one making and calculating the adjustments before they shot. Sorry you feel these people are ignorant, but they help everyone else with their problems.
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