well i came across this gun on the J&G sales site today and it cought my intrest.... its bolt actoin remington designed after the muaser but chambered in 7.62x39.... so my first thought was that its just strange... being that its an american gun designed after a german action and chambered in a russian round. but the more i stared at it and thought about it the more i liked it. plues for that it is i dont think the price is that bad and i like the look of it.. does anyone have one of these or know anything about them?
^ i always thought that remingtons were made in america.... am i wrong if so..thats really going to burst my bubble...
edit...well i just looked it up and you are correct the barrel and actions are made by Zastava... that im not really to happy about but oh well. anyways thank for bring that to my attention, and keep the comments coming!
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In 2006 Remington Arms, America's oldest gun maker, began importing barreled actions based on traditional Mauser type actions. These barreled actions are made for Remington by Zastava Arms of Serbia, one of the most experienced (in business since 1853) of the Eastern European arms companies. Zastava Oruzje has been manufacturing Mauser Model 98 actions since 1928. The Zastava barreled actions are then stocked in American made laminated hardwood stocks and marketed as the Remington Models 798 and 799. Model 798. Illustration courtesy of Remington Arms Co.The Model 798 is based on a standard length, square bridge, Mauser 98 action chambered for centerfire hunting cartridges ranging from the .243 Winchester to the .458 Winchester Magnum. This is an all steel, controlled feed action using a flat bottom receiver with an integral recoil lug, one-piece bolt with dual locking lugs plus a third safety lug and a bolt guide, full length extractor, solid steel one-piece bottom iron/magazine box/trigger guard, hinged magazine floor plate, and all of the usual Mauser 98 deluxe features. Model 799. Illustration courtesy of Remington Arms Co.The Model 799 is based on a short action of modified Mauser type. It does not use a true Mauser 98 action, does not have a Mauser pattern full-length extractor, and is not a controlled feed design. Instead, the Model 799 uses a Weatherby type claw extractor built into the front of the bolt, and a recessed bolt face. It is chambered for a line of .22 varmint cartridges and the obsolescent 7.62x39 Soviet military cartridge. The .22 Hornet version uses a detachable box magazine; other calibers come with a much classier internal magazine and a hinged magazine floor plate.
Both rifles feature one-piece bolts with dual front locking lugs that require approximately 90 degrees of rotation to operate, a receiver mounted ejector, single stage adjustable trigger, steel bottom iron/trigger guard, and a nicely polished and blued barreled action without iron sights. They are drilled and tapped for standard commercial Mauser 98 long action (798) and short action (799) scope bases.
The laminated hardwood stocks are stained an attractive walnut brown. They are pleasingly shaped with a restrained Monte Carlo comb and a raised cheekpiece, and handle recoil well. There is machine cut, point pattern checkering at forend and pistol grip. Like all laminated hardwood stocks they are extremely stiff and durable, far superior to the injection molded plastic stocks commonly found on rifles in this price class. Here are the catalog specifications of the Model 798:
Stock - Satin finished brown laminated hardwood; includes detachable sling swivel bases and solid rubber butt pad
Length of pull - 13 3/8"
Drop at comb - 1 1/8"
Drop at heel - 1 3/8"
Safety - Sporter style, two position
Sights - None; receiver drilled and tapped for scope mounts
Overall length - 39 1/2"
Nominal weight - 6 3/4 pounds
2006 MSRP - $599
The push feed Model 799 is a cute little sporting rifle built on a good quality, nicely finished action. It adds little real capability to the existing Remington line, since the Model Seven CDL and Model 700 BDL push feed sporter models can be had in most of the same calibers, as can various Model 700 varmint rifles. The 799 extractor is superior to that of the Models 700/Seven, but the circlip used in the bolt face of the U.S. made Remingtons is sufficient for non-critical applications such as varmint hunting. The Model 799 is, however, a fine value at a reasonable price. It would make a dandy lightweight varmint and small predator "stalking" rifle in .222 or .223 caliber.
The Model 798, however, is another matter. It is definitely a step up from the Models 700/Seven (and most other rifles on the market today) for big game hunting purposes. The 798 is based on a more expensive, superior action suitable for the most critical applications, including hunting the world's largest and most dangerous game.
If my rifle absolutely, positively had to work in the most difficult circumstances, I'd choose the Model 798 over a Model 700 every time. Its controlled feed action makes double feed jams impossible and will reliably feed a cartridge into the chamber with the rifle held in any orientation, or while being swung to engage a new target. The 798 also has a larger loading port, making a fast field reload easier and more certain. The advantages that make the 798 superior for the most critical big game hunting applications also make it superior when deer season rolls around.
Be aware that the advertised catalog weight of 7 pounds across the board for Model 798 rifles is almost certainly incorrect. The magnum caliber rifles come with 24" barrels, which naturally weigh more than the 22" barrels supplied on standard caliber rifles. Also, rifles chambered for safari calibers (.375 and .458) usually come with heavier contour barrels than small bore rifles, which further increases their weight. More weight is, in fact, very desirable in rifles chambered for these powerful calibers, which should weigh no less than 9 pounds (bare), and 10 pounds is better. What the 798 Magnum and Safari caliber rifles actually weigh I do not know, but it is unlikely to be 7 pounds.
The Model 798 is a great value, even at the full list price. Both the 798 and 799 barreled actions could easily form the basis of a fine custom rifle. In fact, at Guns and Shooting Online we already have a custom stocked Model 798 in the works. If you haven't checked-out these new Mauser based rifles from Remington, you owe it to yourself to do so. Note: A complete review of the Remington Model 798 rifle can be found on the Product Reviews page.
i think im going to get one. or at least put it near the top of the wish list. id like it more if it the action and barrel were made in the USA but thats not really a big deal. this seems like a great gun. now im wondering if i can get iron sights put on it... and hopefuly in a way that ill still be able to put a scope on aswell if i want.
ps, i thought about the CZ 527, its similar and CZ makes great stuff. but the remington just looks SO much more classy.
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Last edited by squirrelblaster; 04-02-2009 at 03:58 PM.
They are '98 mauser actions. The 799 is a short action.( Remington Model 798 Bolt-Action Rifle ) I'm just waiting for it to become available with a "varmint" taper barrel in .308 if they don't soon then I'll opt for a FN/Winchester mod.70. I,ve always liked the 1898 Mauser action. I bought a new Rem. 700 Police in .308(M-40) for long range High Power shooting and was not impressed with it. It. needed too much action work, the bolt was stiff, needed a trigger job out of the box. It was supposed to have been reamed with a military/target chamber, it had to be shipped back to Reminton for that. After 200 rnds the bolt got stiffer, so back to the factory to be lapped, I jeweled it when it came back. I've had a couple of '98s both new and used, lapping the bolts and jeweling them was only enhancement to a great action, they all needed a Timmney trigger for target work, but IMHO, they are easier than playing with the stock trigger.
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Jersey read my post's you'll find that the 799 really doesn't look like a Mauser or the 798.
It has a spring loaded little claw attached the side of the bolt face. It does not have the long claw extractor running down the side of the bolt like a Mauser.