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Old 04-10-2009, 10:35 PM   #1
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Navy SEAL vs. Pirates

Can anyone speculate as to why the Navy SEALS did not grab that Maersk Alabama captain when we jumped off the pirate ship? Were the SEALS not trolling below the lifeboat in a mini-sub when the skipper jumped? Would you have thought of this simple plan if you were not a SEAL operator? What's up?

Knowing that the skipper's go spunk, are they now under the pirate ship drilling holes to slowly sink it? They could grap the captain when it sinks too. Hmm ... Too simple?
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Can anyone speculate as to why the Navy SEALS did not grab that Maersk Alabama captain when we jumped off the pirate ship? Were the SEALS not trolling below the lifeboat in a mini-sub when the skipper jumped? Would you have thought of this simple plan if you were not a SEAL operator? What's up?

Knowing that the skipper's go spunk, are they now under the pirate ship drilling holes to slowly sink it? They could grap the captain when it sinks too. Hmm ... Too simple?
We're in a new administration that is "monitoring the situation". Nuff said.....
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Old 04-10-2009, 10:57 PM   #3
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Does monitoring mean laying seige to a pirate lifeboat?
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Did I say lifeboat?
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Old 04-10-2009, 11:06 PM   #5
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I went through Navy Seal training back in 1976. I don't think that much has changed. They are chomping at the bit. 50 of them would take out Somalia and all the pirates.
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Old 04-10-2009, 11:41 PM   #6
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I went through Navy Seal training back in 1976. I don't think that much has changed. They are chomping at the bit. 50 of them would take out Somalia and all the pirates.
ROFL!... and after watching the training from Hell Week into SCUBA qual and other stuff, I don't doubt that one bit.

Those guys are die-hard (or nuts) and have my utmost respect, as they don't get nearly the appreciation and recognition they deserve.
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Old 04-11-2009, 12:25 AM   #7
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I went through Navy Seal training back in 1976. I don't think that much has changed. They are chomping at the bit. 50 of them would take out Somalia and all the pirates.
What was your class number?
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Old 04-11-2009, 12:51 AM   #8
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people watch and believe way to much TV!
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Old 04-11-2009, 05:56 AM   #9
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people watch and believe way to much TV!
You directing that at anyone in specific or are you just saying it for the hell of it?
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Old 04-11-2009, 06:41 AM   #10
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From what I understand the captain jumped out and was grabbed by the pirates pretty quickly. Too quickly for the Navy to react.

I think they should just train a bunch of M2s on that boat, attach a line to it and just drive to the states.


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Old 04-11-2009, 07:11 AM   #11
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Makes you wonder....4 or 5 guys in a life boat, holding an American ship Captain and it`s a stand-off.
The Navy, seals and who ever else is in the area are forced into a "wait and see" pattern as any action could be fatal to the captain.
It`s said that the Pi-rat gangs are holding about 300 other hostages through out their
area of hi-jacking. Any attempt at a rescue could lead to a mass killing. Maybe.
Tough call at the moment but it ain`t over till the fat lady sings and I`ll bet the Pi-
rats don`t get to hear her.
We don`t need another Jimmy Carter thing.
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Very true. Gotta keep in mind that that little boat is isolated with limited supplies. Something has to happen when food and water run out. We are a lot more prepared for this type of stuff than when Carter was president. I don't think we are going to see a boondoggle like that again.
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Old 04-11-2009, 08:55 AM   #13
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I'd simply tell the pirates that if anything happens to the captain, they will each be keelhauled, on whatever nukie carrier is available. Can you imagine being drug under one of those monsters? Very few survived being keelhauled under a sailing ship, let alone a super carrier. Part of the punishment was you came up with a lot less skin, after being dragged over the barnacles on the hull. Do our carriers have barnacles? Can you say frickasee?
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Old 04-11-2009, 10:32 AM   #14
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When one trades his life in danger for the others, he knows what the end result could be. I acknowledge the danger the captain put himself into and honor him for his bravery. If the pirate scumbags didn't return him for the pirate that was traded back, why would they give back a live captain. We are not dealing with honorable, sensible people here, they have nothing to lose. The military should've been on watch with lights and trained 50's on the boat when he jumped ship so they could blast em out of the water. Sorry but the USA does not make deals with pirates. I know the ship is privately owned, but he is a citizen and has the right to be protected. I know I am not right on some of these issues in some eyes but these are situations that all can have a different position on.
Again I honor the captain for his bravery.
May God bless him and keep him safe.
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+1!^ It takes guts to put yourself in the hot seat, and this guy has enough to go around. His attempted escape says volumes about the man! I hope it comes out good for him, and he should get a tickertape parade!
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justacar, pretty much directed towards the first post. seems the thought of the first post is that there's SEAL's all over the ocean in mini subs just waiting on this kind of thing.
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I went through Navy Seal training back in 1976. I don't think that much has changed. They are chomping at the bit. 50 of them would take out Somalia and all the pirates.
True,if allowed to!
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+1!^ It takes guts to put yourself in the hot seat, and this guy has enough to go around. His attempted escape says volumes about the man! I hope it comes out good for him, and he should get a tickertape parade!
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Old 04-11-2009, 01:30 PM   #19
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How does that old saying go? Something like, I need 1,000 troops, or 100 marines."

I can't remember where I read that from either, was a book or a from a movie....
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I'd simply tell the pirates that if anything happens to the captain, they will each be keelhauled, on whatever nukie carrier is available. Can you imagine being drug under one of those monsters? Very few survived being keelhauled under a sailing ship, let alone a super carrier. Part of the punishment was you came up with a lot less skin, after being dragged over the barnacles on the hull. Do our carriers have barnacles? Can you say frickasee?
If they came up at all, that is. Part of whether you survived a keelhauling depended on how much your shipmates liked you. If they liked you a lot, you got torn up some by the barnacles because they pulled you down and around so fast, but you'd [robably live through the experience with some scars. On the other hand, if they didn't like lyou, they'd take their time and you might just drown - or get eaten by the sharks that trailed sailing ships to feed on the garbage.

Personally, I wouldn't bother with keelhauling. We may not have yardarms sturdy enough to two-block these bastards to any more - but the thought occurs to me that booting them off an airplane elevator in the UP position with about 10 feet of line secured to one of the stanchions that hold up the safety wires with a noose on the end around their necks would do the job just fine. Leave 'em hang for about an hour just to be sure, then just cut the line. You can even have the chaplain pray over 'em before you cut the line if you want.
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