Adhesive options for point inserts on Carbon shafts
Anyone have any tips for gluing in point inserts on Carbon shafts? never done this before and did not find much on my searches. It looks like people are recommending everything from rubber cement to gorilla glue.
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Don't use Fletchtite to secure your insert's to the shaft ... they don't hold very well and will come off if you shoot at Foam Target's. Epoxy is Great but on the "heavier" side for adhesive's. A Friend tried JB weld and it held fine but in the end ... his arrow's never hit consistantly. I use Gorilla Glue or Krazy Glue ... Just make sure to lightly scuff the inside of the shaft and clean out the carbon powder.
There are a few products that work great but usually it is just cyonacrylate (Super glue).
Go to a hobby or craft store and notice that when asking for cyonacrylate they will ask you... "Which one?". It come in three thicknesses. Thin, medium, and Thick. I have always found that the thick blend works best and even though it is a heavier product, it also requires less product to be used. Let it cure a bit longer than the thinner blends. I use this for inserts, and for target tip installations that dont use inserts.
Works great.
Last edited by Trigger Happy; 04-12-2009 at 12:44 AM.
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Hot Glue will be easier to remove if you are either making change's or damage the shaft and you want to remove the insert. Gorilla Glue/Superglue to remove you have to heat the insert with the point on longer than with the hot glue and you risk damaging the shaft...plus the Super Glue is lighter compared to Hot Glue. But Both do hold up well...I would go with hot glue for it's ease of appying and removal.
Hot Glue will be easier to remove if you are either making change's or damage the shaft and you want to remove the insert. Gorilla Glue/Superglue to remove you have to heat the insert with the point on longer than with the hot glue and you risk damaging the shaft...plus the Super Glue is lighter compared to Hot Glue. But Both do hold up well...I would go with hot glue for it's ease of appying and removal.
Baser-
Now we'll really confuse you. Given the option of the two you mentioned I would prefer Gorilla Glue simply because when my inserts go in I want them to stay in. I had one batch of arrows made that, whatever glue was used, I continually had problems with the inserts sliding out a little. Took them back to the bow shop and had them reglued, and have never had any more trouble.
But once my arrows are setup, I tend to not want to change anything either.
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I used a Hot Melt glue for arrows I picked up at Sportsmans for about $5 and have had no trouble with them. So far they are staying in place with no trouble. If I ever decide to remove them I can heat the tips and pull the insert out. In theory anyway, the glue required a lot of heat, so would have to use a torch.
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to pass resolutions in favour of
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Yeah! thanks for the replies guys. I hadn't touched a bow for years and was completely out of my element. Bought a compound, bought some arrows, and then thought "Now what?"
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"It is useless for the sheep
to pass resolutions in favour of
vegetarianism" ~ R. W. Inge
The two dozen I bought with the bow I had the guy at the shop cut for me. My dad picked up a new compound this week, I am hoping either Sportsmans or the Archery shop in the area will cut the other 2 dozen I have for him.
It looks like you need an abrasive cutter for them (like an inverted, smaller version of a tile saw) and I am not set up with one.
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"It is useless for the sheep
to pass resolutions in favour of
vegetarianism" ~ R. W. Inge
Where do you pick up your fetching supplies? The dozen I have been using for practice are getting pretty ragged. Poor backstop material was letting them sink all the way into the straw barrels they have set up at the park.
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"It is useless for the sheep
to pass resolutions in favour of
vegetarianism" ~ R. W. Inge
My bow shop sells everything you need. I don't fletch my own, I just take them in and let the pro do it for me. I haven't looked, but I'm sure there are websites where you could buy the fletchings and jig if you wanted to. If you do it yourself put a drop of glue on top of the front of the fletching. This will help keep it from getting stripped off. A good target that stop your arrows will help that to. Then all you have to worry about is hitting them with another arrow.
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I agree with the super glue for inserts and for fletching. Be sure to clean the inside of the shaft, I use a bronze gun cleaning brush the just barely can be pushed into the shaft for cleaning. Never lost an insert yet with super glue. I shoot a lot with traditional and compound bows
