I didnt know where else to post this.
if there is a better place, please say so so i can post it there.
I went out to buy a mossberg 500 tactical cruiser today from a gun shop called Attwells in painesville Ohio.
Everything was all good, were were changing the stock from the pistol grip to my Specops stock that i had on my maverick.
I guess one of the of guys had to call NICS.
he said they denied me.
i just want to know why.
I'm 20 years old.
no felonies.
2 misdemeanors right after i turned 18,
one for possession of marijuana and one for paraphernalia.
nothing since.
is there any real reason why i was denied the sale of a shotgun.
I talked to my dads cop friend about it.
he said you gotta be 21 to buy a shotgun.
i thought it was you only had to be 18.....?
anyone that can bring up a good point or whatever, please do so..
as i am really confused.
Yep, might only be a misdemeanor, but it's the pot charges. As previously said, you're screwed!
And you c an't count on a cop (sorry, but it's true) knowing the law. And did you also mention to this cop about the pot charge? If so, he should have been able to tell you it was that and not your age. Or did you not tell the cop that li'l tid bit of info?
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why would a pot charge not allow you to obtaining a firearm. i thought it was just felonies and domestic violence? go to a gun show and get one bud. no background check there if you buy froma private seller.
yep if you get caught with the bud you get your guns taken away. now you might beable to go infront the judge and plead for your rights but have fun. juss tell um" you was gettin high!!! sorry. when i'm about to do something or asked to do something i think of my guns and how much i love to shoot/clean/and tinker with them and it brings me back to reality and i say no thanks i'll pass.
you should watch out on giving info on how to buy a gun if your turned down and you know the guy has a record this could come back to bite you in the butt too.
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Originally Posted by CareBearSlayer
why would a pot charge not allow you to obtaining a firearm. i thought it was just felonies and domestic violence? go to a gun show and get one bud. no background check there if you buy froma private seller.
why would a pot charge not allow you to obtaining a firearm. i thought it was just felonies and domestic violence? go to a gun show and get one bud. no background check there if you buy froma private seller.
And THAT is what the Media and Govt, is calling "The Gunshow LOOPHOLE" and trying to stop individuals from selling thier guns to another Citizen without a Background check.
Apparently you have not read what questions you are answering on a Form 4473 when you buy a gun from a dealer. It specifically asks about using Illegal Drugs , and if you have a conviction for that , the FBI wil deny you the rest of your Life . I had a Possession arrest on my record in 1973, the charges were Dropped in The Police station and Never went to court because of the circumstances and witnesses of the arrest. The arrest is still on my record and I had to go thru a 4 month period of FBI investigation to get My Rights restored for a background check Variance so I would not be denied...
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yep if you get caught with the bud you get your guns taken away. now you might beable to go infront the judge and plead for your rights but have fun. juss tell um" you was gettin high!!! sorry. when i'm about to do something or asked to do something i think of my guns and how much i love to shoot/clean/and tinker with them and it brings me back to reality and i say no thanks i'll pass.
all in all, this sucks.
something from my past, little stupid mistake, changes the way that i can live out the REST of my life..
i've been clean ever since the day i got arrested.
it was my fresh start.
and now that im on track and everything is going great, im still haunted by it.
i'd have to say, This sucks.
you can go in front the judge and plead for your rights back you might get them back . depending on how much you had on you and what kinda mood the judge is in. i had a buddy who was cultivating it and got busted well they took all his guns away "alot of ak's/mausers and other assault rifles. well when he went in front the judge he pleaded for his guns back and they gave them all back on one condition . that condition was that he get a job stay clean by passing piss test and the other part was none of the guns could be in the same house with him so his dad had to rent a mini storage and store them there . it starte to cost them more money for the storage so they had to end up selling every gun but the arsenal ak47. so he ended up loosing them in the end or should i say never really got them back cause he really couldn't hold them and tinker with them. but if you got caught with a simple little joint and some papers i could see the judges dropping the charges and clearing your record. in todays world they have that P.T.I pre trial intervention thing and if you go through that they will clear your record.
so go talk to the D.A or the JUDGE or even hire an attorney if you really want your rights reinstated this is america we fight for what we want and if you want that gun you better fight for it. it might cost you for a lawyer but look at it this way atleast you'll have your gun ownership rights back. and the way i know this will work is if a guy can get released from prison after serving his full time and get a full pardon whatever from it saying time served and get his gun rights back i know you can "and i know a guy who done just that" so don't think that after your a convicted fellon your screwed the way it seems the law works is if you do all your time and you get a complete release you can apply for your gun ownership rights back but you have to go to a judge with a lawyer.
It is a funny world, when a convicted felon can buy a gun on the street but not from a business. I sold guns as a store clerk to a man who had been convicted of murder. He changed his name, and we sold him guns for well over two years before they caught up with him. He would buy three or four guns at a time, then trade most of them back in a few months later.
I bought a shotgun when I was 18 and when I was 19. I am 20 now as well and havn't been denied for all 8 of the guns I bought. It was the drug charges that got you. I have vowed to myself never to do illegal drugs or do anything stupid that could get me convicted. Sorry to hear about your troubles, I guess it is a life lesson that you learned. O yea, most (not all) cops don't know anything about guns or gun laws.
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It is a funny world, when a convicted felon can buy a gun on the street but not from a business. I sold guns as a store clerk to a man who had been convicted of murder. He changed his name, and we sold him guns for well over two years before they caught up with him. He would buy three or four guns at a time, then trade most of them back in a few months later.
I guess the only way to protect yourself from murderers and people like this is to keep yourself armed at all times.
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ive gotta disagree with the pot charge being the blame here as i have 7 differnt reefer chargesand 2 felony cocaine agaist me(most of wich had been droped and some befor i was 18).now i never considered myself a drug head or anything but if it was there i was never against partaking in a few drags or what not,and i always ended up at the wrong place at the wrong time and getting caught.ive NEVER HAD A PROBLEM BUYING GUNS. check with your friends have they ever used your name when arested? i know a guy who gets denied evey time for that happening to him and it takes about 3 weeks to get his gun over "mistaken identity"
Last edited by the_harbinger; 05-25-2009 at 08:56 PM.
btw im not saying it was ok for me to be involved with drugs,not at all. this was long befor i was the upstanding citisen i am today. alot of things changed in the 6 years since ive done drugs and im happy for all of them.guns and drugs dont mix,plain and simple.
It is possible your drug charges could be to blame, but depending on which state you live in and their age laws for purchasing firearms, that could also be to blame. There was no explanation I take it for your rejection? I don't know if all states are the same as far as age restrictions for buying firearms, but if you are 18 in WA, you can buy rifle/shotgun. 21 to buy pistol and pistol ammo. Not sure if you must be 21 to buy shotgun ammo. Good luck, hopefully you get this sorted out.
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